TruSTART looks to level the playing field.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Mike crosstalk = .5 tree, how? Faster car leaves on slow cars light, why, is it a distraction for the faster car to leave second? How did that happen. Looks like crosstalk is a rule for the faster cars

That's correct. Before CrossTalk, drivers of the faster car could still leave off their opponent's top bulb, but had to look across the tree to the other lane's top bulb, and some drivers complained that the angle of the bulb made it difficult for the to crossover. Either that, or if they weren't crossing over, they had to deal with the distraction of the opponent's top light coming on just before their own.

In delay box classes running CrossTalk, both top bulbs light simultaneously. The slower car's tree comes down normal. The faster car's top bulb stays lit for the time difference between the dial-ins. With a crossover delay box, you enter BOTH dial-ins, and your standard delay. The box does the math and adds the additional delay if you're the faster car.

Try footbraking in a Box class! On rare occasions, I've had to chase somebody. After being CrossTalked a couple of times, I learned that I was .040-.045 like clockwork every time my top bulb was "hanging". (I don't block the tree) The last time it happened, I took a couple of extra bumps, stood on the converter, and stabbed it to come up .001. Ended up winning that day.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

I'm not sure what you are talking about???????????

Could you please explain your statement....

Thanx,
Bob

Sorry I was bored and should have re-read my statement as it didn't make sense to me.
What I was getting at is the people complaining about worst red light rule should probably be complaining about worst break out rule also. Worst break out rule applies at finish line so why doesn't worst red light work on starting line? Both parts of track are very important in winning.
First to go red loses, so first to breakout should be the loser using the current red light theory.

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

Sorry I was bored and should have re-read my statement as it didn't make sense to me.
What I was getting at is the people complaining about worst red light rule should probably be complaining about worst break out rule also. Worst break out rule applies at finish line so why doesn't worst red light work on starting line? Both parts of track are very important in winning.
First to go red loses, so first to breakout should be the loser using the current red light theory.

OK.................

I get it now.......

Worst break out = worst red light and both = a loss..............

Thanx,
Bob

[Jeff Stout]

4444 Norman Marsden 791 Adam Emmer E4 -0.002 10.333 127.08 -0.007 10.140 131.13 SS/KA
This is 4th round in super stock. If truestart was in effect the outcome would be reversed.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

4444 Norman Marsden 791 Adam Emmer E4 -0.002 10.333 127.08 -0.007 10.140 131.13 SS/KA
This is 4th round in super stock. If truestart was in effect the outcome would be reversed.

Don Keen also fell to Abe Loewen in round 1 of SS, although Loewen's red was worse.

[The Hawk]

The one NHRA Class I can see affected the most would be Comp Eliminator.

[Ed Wright]

If I am spotting a slower car, and catch a glimpse of their red light, I just leave. I'm not sitting there on the 2 step for nothing. I win, I'll go down there and practice putting a couple of feet on them at the stripe. My red will most always be worse than theirs. Depending on the handicap as to how much. I'm not the only one that does that. It may not reverse as many losses as some say. Since I normally leave first, I would still be in favor. I think if the red light display were delayed it would put an end to that. The worst red light rule, with the red light display delayed until after the second car leaves could not hurt a thing. Probably more fair. Guys with eight second cars may not be in favor for obvious reasons. Can't really argue it would not be fair, IMHO.

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

It seems this debate keeps popping up and yet, as we all know, nothing will change. But for the sake of argument let's understand what "some" of the slower car racers would like to see happen in a performance oriented sport..

Handicap racing is a "PERFORMANCE ORIENTED SPORT" ???? Really.....?
We know why it's been this was for years, they didn't have any wat to correct it ... NOW WE DO !!
I think a letter writing campaign to Peter Clifford is in order to get this CHANGED !
Discussing it here is doing nothing .......

[Larry Hill]

If it ain't broke don't fix it!!! Leave ''class racing'' alone.


If the bracket folks want, crosstalk, delay boxes, sand boxes, down tack boxes, gps, trustart, air shifters, and the rest, have fun.


If you want to class race get a rule book and build or buy something, you will be glad you did.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by John L Kelley

Handicap racing is a "PERFORMANCE ORIENTED SPORT" ???? Really.....?
We know why it's been this was for years, they didn't have any wat to correct it ... NOW WE DO !!
I think a letter writing campaign to Peter Clifford is in order to get this CHANGED !
Discussing it here is doing nothing .......

Yeah, that will get results for sure! Clifford is even more insulated than Compton, if that is imaginable. All he wants from the Sportsman racer is absolute silence. In fact, he would like us to be invisible but the pesky little non profit status prevents that from happening. And the very last thing he wants is a sordid little red light controversy.