Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885

Todd Hoven · 04-23-2015, 07:57 AM

Can anybody tell me who stocks or can get Embecco 885 for Masterflow 885? I want to use it to fill an engine block. Having a hard time locating a bag. Nobody carries it, where I live. The only way they want to get it is if I buy a large quantity. I tried a search on here and found the company that was supposed to have it. I contacted them and was told no. Been tough to try and find it. Not interested in using Hardblok or Moroso. Thanks

bob3240 · 04-23-2015, 08:49 AM

Todd, there is a building supply in Cincinnati that sells individual bags of 885 for about $40-$50 a 55lb bag. BASF now owns the company and they call it Masterflow as you said. It works better than anything I've used and costs way less than the others. There are probably a lot of other dealers close to you if you can find where. I called them and the company is Janell @ 513-489-9111 and they will ship it to you. They have 9 bags presently.

RJ Sledge · 04-23-2015, 09:34 AM

Couple of tips Todd, always use very cold cold water (ice water is best), and do not use it in direct sunlight or when it is hot weather. Its best to let is cure slowly in a very cool place. Do not mix it too thin, and keep agitating the mixture as it will settle quickly. It will expand from the chemical reaction and get warm. Be very carful when figuring your fill mark. Like I said it will expand so pay attention to the block level and the amount of fill. Don't get it too high.......not fun or easy to remove......ask me how I know.

RJ

Todd Hoven · 04-23-2015, 12:25 PM

Thanks Bob! I've been trying to buy it for a week! Just ordered a bag. Thanks RJ as well. I'll keep all that in mind.

Todd Hoven · 04-23-2015, 12:41 PM

How long should I wait before machining the block? Think a week is sufficient?

Alan Roehrich · 04-23-2015, 01:40 PM

I use 885 at the suggestion of Darin Morgan of RMS and Profiler Cylinder Heads.

I pour each side of the block 48 hours apart. I bolt cylinder heads on during the curing process. And I wait a week after the second side was poured before any other work is done. I torque the heads and mains to spec for curing.

I think the name of the company I buy mine from is Red Cap Supply.

Todd Hoven · 04-23-2015, 01:45 PM

Great I was going to torque everything as well. Thanks for the suggested timeframe. I shall do the same.

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I use 885 at the suggestion of Darin Morgan of RMS and Profiler Cylinder Heads.

I pour each side of the block 48 hours apart. I bolt cylinder heads on during the curing process. And I wait a week after the second side was poured before any other work is done. I torque the heads and mains to spec for curing.

I think the name of the company I buy mine from is Red Cap Supply.

Painter · 04-23-2015, 02:20 PM

Don't forget the motor mounts.

Paul Precht · 04-23-2015, 02:27 PM

I use Halco machine grout and leave it sit with heads and mains torqued for a month. I always take small samples in spray can tops.

bob3240 · 04-24-2015, 09:13 AM

I leave mine torqued for a month as well. Also for Pontiacs I drill the small water holes in the deck larger to get the funnel in the holes; about 1/2".

04-23-2015, 07:57 AM	#1
Todd Hoven VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,329 Likes: 883 Liked 720 Times in 151 Posts	Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 Can anybody tell me who stocks or can get Embecco 885 for Masterflow 885? I want to use it to fill an engine block. Having a hard time locating a bag. Nobody carries it, where I live. The only way they want to get it is if I buy a large quantity. I tried a search on here and found the company that was supposed to have it. I contacted them and was told no. Been tough to try and find it. Not interested in using Hardblok or Moroso. Thanks __________________ Todd Hoven 1035 Stock

04-23-2015, 08:49 AM	#2
bob3240 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: lebanon ohio Posts: 250 Likes: 3 Liked 14 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 Todd, there is a building supply in Cincinnati that sells individual bags of 885 for about $40-$50 a 55lb bag. BASF now owns the company and they call it Masterflow as you said. It works better than anything I've used and costs way less than the others. There are probably a lot of other dealers close to you if you can find where. I called them and the company is Janell @ 513-489-9111 and they will ship it to you. They have 9 bags presently. Last edited by bob3240; 04-23-2015 at 09:06 AM. Reason: more info

04-23-2015, 09:34 AM	#3
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 750 Likes: 377 Liked 247 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 Couple of tips Todd, always use very cold cold water (ice water is best), and do not use it in direct sunlight or when it is hot weather. Its best to let is cure slowly in a very cool place. Do not mix it too thin, and keep agitating the mixture as it will settle quickly. It will expand from the chemical reaction and get warm. Be very carful when figuring your fill mark. Like I said it will expand so pay attention to the block level and the amount of fill. Don't get it too high.......not fun or easy to remove......ask me how I know. RJ

04-23-2015, 12:25 PM	#4
Todd Hoven VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,329 Likes: 883 Liked 720 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 Thanks Bob! I've been trying to buy it for a week! Just ordered a bag. Thanks RJ as well. I'll keep all that in mind. __________________ Todd Hoven 1035 Stock

04-23-2015, 12:41 PM	#5
Todd Hoven VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,329 Likes: 883 Liked 720 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 How long should I wait before machining the block? Think a week is sufficient? __________________ Todd Hoven 1035 Stock

04-23-2015, 01:40 PM	#6
Alan Roehrich VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 4,910 Likes: 993 Liked 1,032 Times in 270 Posts	Re: Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 I use 885 at the suggestion of Darin Morgan of RMS and Profiler Cylinder Heads. I pour each side of the block 48 hours apart. I bolt cylinder heads on during the curing process. And I wait a week after the second side was poured before any other work is done. I torque the heads and mains to spec for curing. I think the name of the company I buy mine from is Red Cap Supply. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

04-23-2015, 02:20 PM	#8
Painter Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 227 Likes: 4 Liked 161 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 Don't forget the motor mounts.

04-23-2015, 02:27 PM	#9
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 690 Likes: 281 Liked 223 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 I use Halco machine grout and leave it sit with heads and mains torqued for a month. I always take small samples in spray can tops.

04-24-2015, 09:13 AM	#10
bob3240 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: lebanon ohio Posts: 250 Likes: 3 Liked 14 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Embecco/Masterflow 855 or 885 I leave mine torqued for a month as well. Also for Pontiacs I drill the small water holes in the deck larger to get the funnel in the holes; about 1/2".