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03-19-2015, 05:57 PM | #11 |
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Re: Mph = Win ?
Gambling in the stands we would always say MPH wins and go with the car that had the most. A lot of times odds would have to be given because cars with more MPH usually won. Not very scientific or no spreadsheet available just good old gambling.
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03-23-2015, 02:04 PM | #12 |
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So I guess one barometer would be how many "high" MPH cars have won S/ST and S/G? I have not seen a lot in S/ST at least, maybe I am wrong.
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03-23-2015, 05:38 PM | #13 |
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I am interested in what you consider hi mph in super street, and what is hi mph in super gas. Looking at the Belle Rose ets, red lights, and slow runs of 11.0 seconds, I would say a 136 mph car won SST. I myself consider that a hi mph. But I take note of any car over 140 extremely hi mph. Seen a few 150 cars, and to me that is they are the trend. The hi mph cars usually run SG, when they want to, with ease.
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03-24-2015, 01:57 PM | #14 |
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Well I would consider a S/ST car over 150 to be a "fast" car. There are more and more of those along with cars that can go 160+
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03-30-2015, 02:49 PM | #15 |
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Re: Mph = Win ?
Super gas winner at 4 Wide Nationals 172 in the final
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05-29-2015, 04:10 PM | #16 |
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Re: Mph = Win ?
That would be true if most of the winners made no adjustments at the finish line. But that simply isn't the case. The vast majority of winners can cut a respectable light, AND can play the stripe. The driver gets a better look at how the stripe is unfolding when he is the catching car as a rule. I have not had that luxury for most of my racing years, so my head is mounted on a swivel.
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05-30-2015, 10:32 AM | #17 |
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But,If you make one round at 9am,then 2nd round at 330pm,with weather and track conditions changing as well-with the thought process being that most of the mph cars have 2 hundreds in the bank because nobody really knows what the will run with that much down time between rounds,that gives the mph car the advantage of catching the slower car,parking on him coming to the stripe,or push the slower car to breakout and dump to get back on the good side on the index! the slower car can dump as well but the car with the most options is the mph car,and all this happens really fast! I have be told by good racers they win more rounds not taking the win light! there is a skill to finish line racing.had a racer tell me a qtr mile race track is 2 ft long-the first foot & and the last foot!
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05-31-2015, 09:48 AM | #19 |
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Yes-not taking the stripe
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05-31-2015, 01:55 PM | #20 |
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Re: Mph = Win ?
here is a good case in point. I usually race my high mph car in s/st. I feel I def. have the advantage by watching the race unfold and waiting till last few feet to act... now that said this weekend I ran my 11.60 street car in super pro, managed to drive well and got to the finals where I ran an 7.60 altered. we were dead even at the tree, I watched him leave, then again at 1000 foot decided he was not going to get there, I dumped hard at the mph stripe, killed 10 mph and 4#s ran out by .003. and still took way too much stripe! advantage fast car!!!!! btw I have found it to be much harder to kill #s with a 3700 pound car than a 2600# car also an advantage for being lighter, lesson learned....
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