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07-18-2015, 07:05 PM | #11 |
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Re: Why Class racing dies slowly
There are so many places and categories for all of us to race at/in and all I read lately is everything is dying.
I don't buy in to that crap. Still have fun every time I go to the track regardless. I consider us lucky to have what we have and don't see it going anywhere. Changing with the times, yes, but I don't think it's dying. My 2 cents. |
07-18-2015, 07:31 PM | #12 |
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From the responses I can tell the Bracket portion of the NHRA program is where you all enjoy. I also enjoyed that when it was all that was available but the Class, Heads up portion of National events are special. I give you all credit for your hard work and persistence and responses. Thank you.
Herbie, Melissas 305 car was FA where your car due to its factor and wt was HA. That probably explains how she could out MPH you. The car for FA was the 400 Pontiac or the Injected 305. I agree having a racing business and working on all our cars was a lot of work and expensive but enjoyable.. |
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subject. You very much speak your mind and I feel you are often out numbered and beat up on this forum. I think it is very simple though. Often said, often true. Follow then money. When the contigency money dried up so did the entries and passion. Seems that simple to me. Entry fees, fuel, sacrifice of income, time away from loved ones,all the other expenses. To many these are all big things. There was a time when it could be worth while to go class racing. Sadly no more. A trophy just is not enough......
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One of the hard parts of this thread is most think that the dial in eliminator is what I am talking about when I say Class Racing. That is NOT true. We can all protect the eliminator Points meet format but it is NOT class Racing. Class is heads up two at a time drag racing. Initially with limited combinations it was fairly close competition. Then with time and poorly factored combinations it became harder for the tech which placed motors and bodies in the rule book at the same "factoring" as last years cars.
I think that new cars are a benefit. I admire those who research the books and find a combination overlooked by factoring but when many cars are no longer present to run classes because the owners moved on to weaker factors or quit due to expense to rebuild -----------(fill in your reasons). That's what I refer to as class racing which slowly dies. The expansion of class choices including FWD, SS/ABC mod cars etc is great for the inclusion of more paying customers but dilutes the heads up component even at Class events. |
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Im getting soooo tired of hearing this new Mod production with spec brodix head crap!!! GO MAKE THIS CLASS HAPPEN SOMEWHERE OR GO AWAY!!! Nobody wants to run this dumb class! Either go run GM Stock in NMCA or Coyote Stock in NMRA or NHRA or IHRA Class race or be a real heads up man and run Pro Stock and be happy!
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Just got back from the Layer/Doane Memorial race.... You would have loved it Dick... It was a Stock/Superstock Combo...(Put on by Rodger Keeling) .. But the final came down to 2 GT/DA Superstockers... A normal bracket race was going on at the track in conjunction with the SS race . You should have seen all the folks walking over to the stands and fence to see a heads up final ...The announcer made a big deal how this was like the good old days...Run what u brung... Your right on one thing... The heads up portion of this class is ....special. In our opinion, its the only reason we are in the class in the first place. Otherwise, we would still be purely bracket racing...
BTW.. Richard Doanes old car , with Rick Brown at the controls, won...
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By the way, isn't your car a Mod car type? GO RICK BROWN, A suitable winner for the event....... Last edited by Dick Butler; 07-19-2015 at 09:34 AM. |
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I cannot go along with you Dick about Class racing dying slowly. The LODRS races this year at Indy and Maple Grove saw class racers turn out in huge numbers. Maybe it was because there was no forecast of bad weather but the racers showed up to race.
Indy had 128 Stockers with 88 in S/S while Maple Grove had 112 Stockers and 87 in S/S. That tells me (and NHRA) that the numbers in Stock and S/S are still strong. One factor could be that NHRA decided to place the newer factory racecars in their own classes relieving the burden on older cars in the upper classes. NHRA knew that putting the newer factory racecars in their own classes would result in LESS heads up runs but they did it anyway and the numbers at Indy and Maple Grove proved them right. I doubt that anyone stayed home because their was a chance of fewer heads up runs which of course meant there would be more dial-in "bracket racing." |
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Thanks Travis for the report. I appreciate your comments and always your friendship and fairness to all the racers.
My disagreement with your thoughts is exactly your comment on moving the New cars "so there would be fewer Heads up runs" ( at points meets and eliminator) Then Class at Nationals divides the available cars into smaller and smaller classes but intra class factoring still affects your chances to be a Class Winner. As the goal of winning class decreases so does the sponsor excitement and cash. (Hard for a sponsor to afford $50 to 100 plus class winners) Do we include eliminator at points meets and Nationals in the definition of Class Racing? I might be simplifying it but I thought we only call multiple same classified cars racing at a National event Class Racing. The rest of the dial in programs are Eliminator to me. I know I am not racing at this time but I am still very interested in the success of Sportsman racing. I have a strong interest in helping getting new racing interest as well. I also contribute to cash prizes at various Class meets. |
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