NHRA and AHFS

jmracing · 04-14-2015, 12:55 PM

NHRA and AHFS

As the result of runs under the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) 1.20-second under policy at the NHRA FOUR-WIDE event, the following changes have been made.
BBC396/375 / 399 / 412 and LT1350/285 / 346 / 358

Dear NHRA administrators.

Following on your latest Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) update, many of us were under the impression the cars involved had to go through teardown before confirming any AHFS adjustment.

But I was told there wasn’t any teardown at least in the latest update?

May I bring to your attention the following; when someone (like I did last year) decides to make history and tries to establish a new record in the sportsman category, this same person knows and is willing to pass teardown for the new record to be recognized by all. There is only one person involved and one car with no effect on anyone else but by respect to all competitors and to make sure all the rules are well respected, NHRA goes through the time consuming experience of teardowns all across the country.

Now comes this AHFS moment, something that affects many many racers in the indicated classes that are fighting every week to gain thousands of second’s improvements here and there to better their chances in winning rounds and programs. And here you are, with this AHFS policy that automatically penalize an ole bunch of us without any kind of inspection to validate the conformity of such performance, no teardown what so ever and we all pay the price of this laxity!

For many of us, under the impression teardown occurs before any AHFS adjustment, such attitude is nothing short then a lack of respect of NHRA’s own rules and policies and a serious lack of respect to NHRA’s sportsman racers.

I understand some places do put racers through teardown to validate an AHFS adjustment, and some don’t, would you accept such approach towards establishing new records entries?

It’s never too late to correct what’s wrong and make it fair for everyone and be assured I’m not saying the racers involved have done anything wrong.

Thanks for your time and actions.

HR9121 · 04-14-2015, 01:09 PM

Did you submit this letter to anyone at NHRA and if so did you receive a reply?

Larry Hill · 04-14-2015, 01:14 PM

If you set your record at a points race and went 1.205 seconds under the index, what would happen and who would it affect?

Mickey Whaley · 04-14-2015, 01:55 PM

What had happen was?

countrypuppy4865 · 04-14-2015, 02:01 PM

1.20 under always applies. Even in mineshaft the only thing that is lifted is the -1.0 trigger.

Mickey Whaley · 04-14-2015, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865

1.20 under always applies mickey. Even in mineshaft the only thing that is lifted is the -1.0 trigger.

I knew that, not

jmracing · 04-14-2015, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121

Did you submit this letter to anyone at NHRA and if so did you receive a reply?

Yes I sent that to Dave Mohn this morning and no reply right now

James Perrone · 04-14-2015, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmracing

Yes I sent that to Dave Mohn this morning and no reply right now

What's a letter gonna do? It's done. 1.20 is the law nhra only tears down at Indy

jmracing · 04-15-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone

What's a letter gonna do? It's done. 1.20 is the law nhra only tears down at Indy

JMRACING STOCK / SS 1999

I agree with you, it's the law and please, make it the same law for everyone, in all circumstances.

Why checking fuel and weight? Take it for granted that all is well, but that's not the way NHRA works thank God.

Working with the highest standards of technology and tech people to enforce all rules & regulations and fairness to all racers in all aspects of this sport and acting in total disregard when AHFS time comes is not only questionable but in total opposition to its responsibilities when so much is at stake for so many people.

What’s a letter going to do? Can’t tell but NHRA’s administrators’ needs to identify the irritants of this organisation and you might change your mind when your turn comes!

Jon Sarrett · 04-15-2015, 11:40 AM

It sucks, I understand. I got 12hp before I turned a tire at the track. From the looks of your avatar, you got some too. I think your letter has great intentions but I honestly don't think anyone in Glendora cares about S/SS and it has shown for a long time. My hat's off to them over the off season for breaking the FS cars out, I really didn't think it would happen. We have been weighed, we have been measured and we have been found wanting. Good luck with your endeavor, it is a very daunting task.

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jmracing Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: REPENTIGNY, QC. CANADA J6A8G5 514-642-0603 Posts: 39 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	NHRA and AHFS NHRA and AHFS As the result of runs under the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) 1.20-second under policy at the NHRA FOUR-WIDE event, the following changes have been made. BBC396/375 / 399 / 412 and LT1350/285 / 346 / 358 Dear NHRA administrators. Following on your latest Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) update, many of us were under the impression the cars involved had to go through teardown before confirming any AHFS adjustment. But I was told there wasn’t any teardown at least in the latest update? May I bring to your attention the following; when someone (like I did last year) decides to make history and tries to establish a new record in the sportsman category, this same person knows and is willing to pass teardown for the new record to be recognized by all. There is only one person involved and one car with no effect on anyone else but by respect to all competitors and to make sure all the rules are well respected, NHRA goes through the time consuming experience of teardowns all across the country. Now comes this AHFS moment, something that affects many many racers in the indicated classes that are fighting every week to gain thousands of second’s improvements here and there to better their chances in winning rounds and programs. And here you are, with this AHFS policy that automatically penalize an ole bunch of us without any kind of inspection to validate the conformity of such performance, no teardown what so ever and we all pay the price of this laxity! For many of us, under the impression teardown occurs before any AHFS adjustment, such attitude is nothing short then a lack of respect of NHRA’s own rules and policies and a serious lack of respect to NHRA’s sportsman racers. I understand some places do put racers through teardown to validate an AHFS adjustment, and some don’t, would you accept such approach towards establishing new records entries? It’s never too late to correct what’s wrong and make it fair for everyone and be assured I’m not saying the racers involved have done anything wrong. Thanks for your time and actions.

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countrypuppy4865 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Donaldsonville, LA Posts: 967 Likes: 8 Liked 183 Times in 62 Posts	Re: NHRA and AHFS 1.20 under always applies. Even in mineshaft the only thing that is lifted is the -1.0 trigger. __________________ Jimmy "Cooter" Hidalgo, Jr. 4865 E/SA '04 GTO 4865 SS/GA '99 Firebird Last edited by countrypuppy4865; 04-14-2015 at 09:02 PM.

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Jon Sarrett Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sullivan, OH Posts: 302 Likes: 678 Liked 136 Times in 43 Posts	Re: NHRA and AHFS It sucks, I understand. I got 12hp before I turned a tire at the track. From the looks of your avatar, you got some too. I think your letter has great intentions but I honestly don't think anyone in Glendora cares about S/SS and it has shown for a long time. My hat's off to them over the off season for breaking the FS cars out, I really didn't think it would happen. We have been weighed, we have been measured and we have been found wanting. Good luck with your endeavor, it is a very daunting task.