Jr Dragsters At Divisionals

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160_v2

You say this while giving no thought to the possibility that a car set up ideally for the .90 classes is not the same as an ideal bracket setup for the same car.

Ed's assessment of the mentality of many S/SS racers toward the other classes (many; not all) is spot-on.

I have no issues with the ,90 classes. I have several friends that run there. There is a big difference between the engines in the two classes. The guy that does my machine work also builds quite a few ,90 engines and I have seen how they are built. Big Heavy rotating assembly built for longevity. My SS engine is just the opposite small light crankshaft, rods and pistons. Built for optimal power and high rpm. That is why most of us don’t bracket race our cars.

[Lenny5160_v2]

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

I have no issues with the ,90 classes. I have several friends that run there. There is a big difference between the engines in the two classes. The guy that does my machine work also builds quite a few ,90 engines and I have seen how they are built. Big Heavy rotating assembly built for longevity. My SS engine is just the opposite small light crankshaft, rods and pistons. Built for optimal power and high rpm. That is why most of us don’t bracket race our cars.

I understand why a S/SS racer wouldn't go bracket racing. The issue is your assumption that the .90 racers more easily can, or consider it an equally appetizing substitute.

[Dan Bennett]

I'm going to make a comment which some racers here won't like.
I spent hours looking at a monitor which displayed the timing clocks. For some reason, I got in the habit of watching the time duration from one pair to another. The super classes took - by far - the most time for any non-pro category.

Lots of professional sports have seen the problem and introduced clocks of some sort. If the same thing were introduced to staging (with different standards for classes that need more time and those who don't) there would be plenty of unused time to run even a very large field of juniors.

I realize that the racers have developed a process but imo because of monkey see, monkey do. A large part of their routine serves no real purpose but "the fast guys do it". And yes, even the class I spent most time in - Pro Stock. There is no need for that wheelie bar check and adjustment on the line. I'm expecting micrometers to start getting used.

[goinbroke2]

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett

I'm going to make a comment which some racers here won't like.
I spent hours looking at a monitor which displayed the timing clocks. For some reason, I got in the habit of watching the time duration from one pair to another. The super classes took - by far - the most time for any non-pro category.

Lots of professional sports have seen the problem and introduced clocks of some sort. If the same thing were introduced to staging (with different standards for classes that need more time and those who don't) there would be plenty of unused time to run even a very large field of juniors.

I realize that the racers have developed a process but imo because of monkey see, monkey do. A large part of their routine serves no real purpose but "the fast guys do it". And yes, even the class I spent most time in - Pro Stock. There is no need for that wheelie bar check and adjustment on the line. I'm expecting micrometers to start getting used.

You mean I don't need 45 guys at the line, backing me up, slapping the car, giving thumbs up for no apparent reason....oh wait, that's no prep...lol

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

The top 10 points earners in S/SS last year ran more races than a regular local bracket racer did for points. The average in the National Top 10 is 12-14 races. I checked three tracks, with three different sanctions, and two ran 10 points races, while one ran 11...

I don't know if this applies to your point, but ET racers rarely race only a single track's points races and nothing else. For example, I competed before the era of big-money multi-day bracket races, and I raced up to 40 times in a single year, just hitting all the multiple local tracks weekly, with the rare road trip.

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

I competed before the era of big-money multi-day bracket races, and I raced up to 40 times in a single year

How many of those tracks that you ran are still open, and running bracket programs?

[57chevy3407]

I'd bring my daughters JR, but I would also understand being a support division that due to weather or track conditions we may get bumped.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

I don't know if this applies to your point, but ET racers rarely race only a single track's points races and nothing else. For example, I competed before the era of big-money multi-day bracket races, and I raced up to 40 times in a single year, just hitting all the multiple local tracks weekly, with the rare road trip.

Same happens around here, the 3 local tracks which Kinston, Coastal Plains in Jacksonville and Galot have 15 or so points races per season. They very rarely compete against each other on the same weekend and you have many racers around here that run for points at all of them so you're looking at 40 to 45 races per year for some of those racers. Granted not all of them but I can think of 30-40 really hardcore racers that do this many year after year.

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

How many of those tracks that you ran are still open, and running bracket programs?

I was based in north Jersey starting in '76, so three out of the four NJ tracks open at that time have shut down. Many parts of the country weren't blessed with the number of tracks needed to race locally 40 times a year.

[mike natoli]

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