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Old 12-08-2016, 10:39 AM   #51
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Here we go. Why do the hyd cam combos get an "up grade" and not the solid cam combinations?? IF ( I am not advocating for this) everyone had been up graded to rollers would that not have leveled the playing field? Am I missing something here? Are not the lifter concerns "wiping out a motor" shared with solid and hyd cams?
Hi Phil.

In a way, a hydraulic cam switched to solids actually loses lift when checked the NHRA way. Since the NHRA checking clearance is .000 (zero), a solid cam loses the lift from the lash when it's running.

A hydraulic lifter is theoretically always at .000 (zero) when it's running.
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:44 AM   #52
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So in a sense, all the folks using a hyd lifter, as they were supposed to, can change to solid lifter grind, at the same specs, and gain, what maybe 25 to 30 hp ? Is that idea still correct ?


Im only out of class racing, for a little while...
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:45 AM   #53
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Here we go. Why do the hyd cam combos get an "up grade" and not the solid cam combinations?? IF ( I am not advocating for this) everyone had been up graded to rollers would that not have leveled the playing field? Am I missing something here? Are not the lifter concerns "wiping out a motor" shared with solid and hyd cams?
Seems like a lot of concern about someone getting an edge by using solids making them faster. If they run heads up, maybe, other than that it's a bracket race. Take away the heads up, run on your number, problem solved with Daddy WarBucks mega dollar engine getting a free ride.
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:59 AM   #54
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Hi Phil.

In a way, a hydraulic cam switched to solids actually loses lift when checked the NHRA way. Since the NHRA checking clearance is .000 (zero), a solid cam loses the lift from the lash when it's running.

A hydraulic lifter is theoretically always at .000 (zero) when it's running.
Good Morning Al.

I understand that. Why the rule change then? Higher RPM capability?
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Old 12-08-2016, 11:09 AM   #55
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Good Morning Al.

I understand that. Why the rule change then? Higher RPM capability?
One less thing for Tech to check, would be my guess?
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Old 12-08-2016, 01:39 PM   #56
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My guess would be for ease of tech, the performance
Will change very little , not gonna turn a 6500
Rpm engine into a 8500 or gain a bunch of power.
I would think at very best .03-.05 the current generation
Of limited travel "hydraulic" lifters are solids already!
Just my .02$$ lol!!!!
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:18 PM   #57
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Does this mean that Hydrualic rollers can be replaced with Solid Rollers?
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:24 PM   #58
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Not sure in the roller stuff, but that is where
You would see the largest gain not flat tappets.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:15 PM   #59
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My guess would be for ease of tech, the performance
Will change very little , not gonna turn a 6500
Rpm engine into a 8500 or gain a bunch of power.
I would think at very best .03-.05 the current generation
Of limited travel "hydraulic" lifters are solids already!
Just my .02$$ lol!!!!

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Old 12-08-2016, 03:45 PM   #60
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Here we go. Why do the hyd cam combos get an "up grade" and not the solid cam combinations?? IF ( I am not advocating for this) everyone had been up graded to rollers would that not have leveled the playing field? Am I missing something here? Are not the lifter concerns "wiping out a motor" shared with solid and hyd cams?
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