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11-10-2014, 04:48 PM | #1 |
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Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
These are the skeleton of classes run successfully 3 years at a local track with several class breaks but proposal is for ONE class to test the interest.
Weight-3000 minimum Based on 9 lb /cu in. Engine: small block chevy, mopar or ford. Block 9 inch deck ht any overbore, Any Stroke no noticeable lightening of crank. Rods: any length or type, Stock bearing size. Any Pistons and pins. Valve train: any cam and lifter under.904 lifter.. Maximum lift .700 at valve. No belt drive, chain only. Valves steel or titanium. Max size 2.08 intake, 1.6 exhaust. 11/32 stem on valve. Heads GM Brodix SPCH, Chrysler, SPMO, Ford Brodix SPFO. Intake and exhaust port must remain untouched. Only welding is for repairs . Brodix to tech if questions. Angle mill or flat milled. NO PORT WORK under valve , Any valve job.Any Valve length or material. Titanium retainers and locks. Max spring diameter 1.550.Port plates allowed to fit larger header but cannot port head or fill to match header. Intake manifold: any Cast Aluminum generally available to public. Any internal mods. Port plates allowed on intake or exhaust side.HEAD may NEVER ported to match exhaust or intake. Spacer under carb Max 2". Carb: Any single standard Flange 4150 Holley type 750 only. Any internal modifications but must retain stock choke horn. Exhaust: Any Header with vacu-pan allowed. Oil System: Any pan , no external pump or drive, no billet pump. Pan has sight hole 3/4" for ease of tech. Accessories: Electric fan, water pump, fuel pump legal. Any battery powered ignition, Battery may be in trunk. Cool can legal. Stock Distributer position. Rear end: Any factory produced rear end and gear ratio permitted. Transmissions:Automatic any factory auto permitted with trans break. Air shifted okay. Auto runs can run 50 lb underwt. Manual: Any gear ratio allowed. Clutch must be used to shift all gears in conventional manner. 5 speed allowed. Clutch pressure platge and fly wheel: AnySFI approved unit with clutch mearsuring no less than 10.5 inch with single disc only. No Counter weights allowed. Suspension: Any after market allowed legal in SS rules. 4 link, ladder bars and coil over shocks. Front suspension must be original factory style May use after market K member and A frames. Adjustable struts, shocks and limiters allowed. Body: Stock or SS legal chassis. May use Fiberglass hood with scoop. No roadster, altered or dragster permitted. Wheelie bars legal as SS rules. FWD cars 50 lb heavy. Frame: Full Chassis car with Roll cage per SS specs. Tires: SS rules on wheels and tires except rear tires limited to 14x32 Drive Train: No Carbon Fiber or titanium parts except drive shaft for safety. No Ceramic bearings in trans, rear end or front end. Fuel: Check for C-12 only. No Computer of any kind to monitor or control car. Racing is .4 Pro Tree. Tech will be wt, fuel and P and G. For protest heads may be sent to Brodix for final word if this is an issue. Record run, winners and runner up subject to removing head and scope in pan. Carb also will be reviewed. Scope in Port or exhaust may be included. Please review and consider these thoughts to make a cheaper class to enter and build. Maybe a few SS cars will come back to the tracks.\ Thanks Dick Butler and Randy Wilson. ( subject to corrections or minor adjustment) Last edited by Dick Butler; 11-10-2014 at 04:53 PM. |
11-10-2014, 07:11 PM | #2 |
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Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
Good God, the season isn't even over yet and you're going to beat this dead horse again???
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11-10-2014, 07:18 PM | #3 |
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Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
I don't think you will have a lot positive response to this. Myself it would not be cheaper per your rules. I would have to build a new engine and buy another clutch set up just for starters. Just my opinion.........
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11-10-2014, 07:40 PM | #4 |
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Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
Wow! Tough crowd.
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Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
Also, no one is trying to "Convert" anyone. No one's trying to get cars to leave one class for another. The thought was to get parked cars possibly back.
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11-10-2014, 07:59 PM | #6 |
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Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
Thought is that some people are sitting out racing because the costs are out of line. Maybe someone new might pick up an old modified or SS chassis and start here instead of fearing the 30K motor SS motors we now have...
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11-10-2014, 08:16 PM | #7 |
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Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
I'm not in any position to join in on this, but I really hope you guys get some interest. It would be a very entertaining deal to spectate!
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11-10-2014, 08:44 PM | #8 |
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Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
With the spec heads listed it looks like Brodix would be sponsoring the class. Also , the valve size eliminates the Cleveland Ford along with the spec head.
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11-10-2014, 09:02 PM | #9 |
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The spec heads listed flow virtually the same. Hence the lower cost, and not searching for the latest trick of the week. The whole reason why it works in other forms of racing.
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11-10-2014, 09:12 PM | #10 |
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Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed
This sounds like it would be cheaper than a full-effort super-stocker, but maybe more expensive than a stocker. I have an old friend who still has his 331" Truppi-Kling engine from a B/SM he raced in the late 1970's. Throw on a set of spec heads, and he could be back in business for a while, although clearly not the fastest in the class.
This might get some traction with one of the sanctions if Brodix offered to partially sponsor the class. If they put up contingency money, every winner in the class would be eligible, since they are required to use their product. Brodix would not only sell heads to the participants, but also to bracket racers and aspirationals who run what they can afford now, but hope to try class racing one day. (Dave Ley's post went up while I was slowly typing this) So, is that 3,000 lbs with driver? What track is running the class now?
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