CLASS RACER FORUM - "WHAT IF" part 4

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Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

About the name... If you google CRA you get many organizations including oval track racers. If you search IHRA you can as the 1st hit find the International Harm Reduction ***. As an organization that is in its infancy, we will be competing against many groups. Since the internet is here to stay, all attempts should be made to allow the search engine to pull up this group with no confusion. The goal is to GGRRROOOWWW. This means racers and more importantly spectators. Last minute what to do today or this weekend should be a painless search. High car counts + high spectator counts = More sponsors and $!

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

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Originally Posted by Robert Swartz (Post 109163)

Or maybe that's it. Revive the AHRA under a new brand. That's an interesting question, if someone does still hold the rights to that name? I always thought they had the neatest decal anyway. I had an old AHRA t-shirt, wore that thing till it became nothing but a faded rag, LOL! Still have it in a paper bag upstairs somewhere.

I think that's it, BRING BACK the AHRA!!!!!!

Robert Swartz

Robert,

I googled AHRA and as of 2006 they were still in business as an association, racing at only one track....Seattle, we would probably have to pay someone to use that moniker.

I raced in the old AHRA and it always had a family feeling not like the cattle call NHRA.

Jim

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 109067)

Terry Bell

I think to have our own Assocation would be great. I like UCRA - United Class Racers Assocation.

I also like Jeff Lee's comment on combine classes, Stick with Auto's & combining A,B&C - D,E&F, ect.
I came up with a different plan. See if anyone out there likes this idea.

I only did this for Stock Elim. I broke down all of the NHRA classes into 16 classes by combining them
of course. OK
1. AA stick & auto same index
2. A & B 3 tenths difference in indexs, so add wt. or take out wt. to make it even.
3. C & D 2 tenths difference.
4. E & F 2 tenths difference.
5. G & H .25 hundreds diff.
6. I & J .25 diff.
7. K & L .15 diff.
8. M,N&O 3 tenths diff.
9. P/S & P/SA is the same index.
10. Q/S - Q/SA & A/FS 2 tenths diff.
11. R/S & R/SA 1 tenth diff.
12. T/S & T/SA same index
13. U/S - U/SA & B/FS 2 tenths diff.
14. V/S -V/SA- C&D/FS .45 hundreds diff. ( this is the only class with a big index gap ) suggestions ?
15. W/S & W/SA .25 hundreds diff.
16. E/FS class by itself

How i would run this would be: Run these for Class Elim's on Saturday & the 16 Winners go into the Handicap Style Elim. for Sunday. Payout's, we could use some ideas. Anyone ?????
I'm sure you could do the same for Super Stock using the index formula. Different Class, Same Index =
1 Class, ect....
I would really like some payout ideas. I'll try & do 1 today.

UCRA is the future for us Class Racers...

Sincerely
"Pistol" Pete Dutko
1374 Stock

Hey Pete,

The only suggestion I have is to add one more class to put V/S, and CF/S together (.10 difference), and place V/SA & DF/S (also .10 difference), in its own class. There may now become an oddlot number of classes, but at least they would be closer together (like the faster classes), and the low qualifier could get the bye run into the first round, while the best package would get the bye for subsequent rounds?

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 109136)

One question.....How many FWD cars exist today across the country anyway????

My first guess would be 12-20 (on the NHRA side that is). I only can think of myself and these guys (cars):
1. Brad Pierce
2. Randy Hyman
3. Bill Owen
4. Steve Pohill
5. Dennis Chapman
6. Jim Wahl
7. Nichole Stephenson
8. The Minnesota Neon
9. Russ Abrams
10. Myself--Gary Hampton
11. Stan Kopejtka
12. Bill Howell
13. Skip Loeffler

That's it as I can best recall of last seasons racers...any others out there? Speak up....

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

Divided by 7 divisions is 2 per division or possible ? per area nationals divided by number of classes....= bye runs for class..
Not being negative but if an organization is to be developed to support CLASS racing one of its moves should be to lay out a plan to consolidate classes so Classes could have competition anywhere in the country they were contested.
That would be hard decisions to make or what would have been gained?
Positive suggestion start as is and consolidate per 6 months...

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 113041)

You forgot Mike Carr in Div. 1 Penn. area.

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 113058)

You forgot Mike Carr in Div. 1 Penn. area.

And Art Leong...

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

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Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 113059)

And Art Leong...

I should have said "STOCK" elim. FWD cars for this list. After that how many FWD Super Stock ? cars in the country??? Probably less !

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 109136)

Might go with ONE pound wt breaks instead of 1/2 lb breaks to further reduce the number of classes in both stock and super stock. Have to add a 6 and 7 lb wt break for the GT S/Sers to give the Hemi, T-Bolts, and Hi HP Corvettes some competition. The slight wt. break might work well to combine GT and traditional Super stockers????? Maybe some wt. break for the lower class automatic stockers and super stockers also. The main thing is there are way to many classes. The manufactures cannot pay for class win for all these different classes in this economy. Why do you think that a class win money has been going down and it isnt worth much even at Indy? All would still run the eliminator on Sunday anyway....not just class winners. Just thinking out loud. One question.....How many FWD cars exist today across the country anyway????

ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO SET UP A NEW ASSOCIATION??????
Adjust this, drop that, It seems to me the stuff you are plotting makes glendora look like childs play.
I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again. If you want a totally level playing field go race heavy eliminator or nostagia race. And leave the the perfomance backed stuff to others.
How about you can't win class unless you have competition in your class. That would get rid of most of the FWD cars!!!!!! HAPPY????????
PS in SS there are Ron Sebelnick, Tim Kish, Myself and some others under consturction. All in the same class

Re: "WHAT IF" part 4

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Originally Posted by Chipper Chapman (Post 108365)

Any thoughts of coming into Canada eh?

You mean where they can't sell RACING GAS ???