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Billy Nees 05-20-2013 05:56 PM

Re: Racer Suspension $5000 - are you crazy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 382306)
So Holier than Thou Billy Nees would knowingly build a bogus combination? Really! Then I find it quite hypocritical you would arrange a meeting with NHRA about AMC parts you perceive as "bogus." Why would you not have marched into NHRA proving the Olds 260 4bbl was "bogus?" Because obviously it served your needs. I'd always heard (from numerous sources) it was you that got the Olds 260 4bbl removed from the books. Now I 'm hearing different. Hmm interesting..
A previous post you said the 283 - 327 intake needed to be "corrected". What progress have you made with NHRA on the removal of that "bogus" part?
What parts are next in your catalog?

Holier than Thou huh? I'm thinkin' no! But I wasn't blowing smoke rings up anybodys a** to get it put in the guide either. I can take somebody like you calling me a hypocrite, no problem. If you talked to Mr. Lang about that deal, I'm pretty sure that you would find that I'm the one that finally got it removed. NHRA knows very well how I feel about the 327 intake on a 283 deal. That's not over yet. My next bogus part? Getting the TRW race piston specs removed from the 70 AMC 390 and getting the right piston specs put back in!

Billy Nees 05-20-2013 06:06 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Miller (Post 382305)
The Olds 260 4-bl never existed. That engine had a 4-bl intake but the carb used was a version of the quadrajet with the secondaries blanked out. Olds did this so they did not have to cast a special 2-bl intake. It was easier to alter the quadrajet carb casting.

Hi Travis, only the 1975-76 260 had the full bodied Dual-Jet on them and the intake was actually cast with no secondary holes in it. The rear of the carb just hung over open air. The 77-82 260s had a smaller version of a Dual-Jet like the ones that came on Buick and Chevy V6s and the infamous 301 2V Pontiac. The basic difference in the size was that the 260s used the primaries of a 750 Q-Jet and the others used primaries of an 800 Q-Jet.
OBTW, would you mind talking to Bruce about that 390 AMC piston thing if you see him?

Joe Schweigert 05-20-2013 06:40 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Miller (Post 382305)
The Olds 260 4-bl never existed. That engine had a 4-bl intake but the carb used was a version of the quadrajet with the secondaries blanked out. Olds did this so they did not have to cast a special 2-bl intake. It was easier to alter the quadrajet carb casting.

The first time I saw that combination run at Indy I told Jim Skelly and Dave Danish that it was wrong and did not come with a 4-bl. It took some persistent arguing on my part over a long period of time to eventually get the quadrajet removed from the 260 engine spec. For those who have never seen the blanked out 2-bl version of the quadrajet check this out...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/rochester-2m...50796919882%26

I am pretty sure that the 1981 Pontiac G/Prix had the 260 with a 4bbl fleet car California only quite a few made it into large company fleets

Billy Nees 05-20-2013 06:42 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Schweigert (Post 382326)
I am pretty sure that the 1981 Pontiac G/Prix had the 260 with a 4bbl fleet car California only quite a few made it into large company fleets

That was a 252 Buick V6 with a 4bbl in the GPs.
Or by 81 it could have been a 307 Olds.

RACER1530 05-20-2013 09:53 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
look what you can buy on e-bay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-SUPER-DA...58641a&vxp=mtr

I don't think the ATI folks would appreciate this.

Joe Schweigert 05-20-2013 11:27 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 382329)
That was a 252 Buick V6 with a 4bbl in the GPs.
Or by 81 it could have been a 307 Olds.

Billy, I'm pretty sure it was a 260 4bbl I worked in Pontiac dealers for years the car was only available in California for one year. I remember a lot of complaining from the fleet customers cause the 1980's were POS with the 231 6 cylinder so the 260 was the answer not a good answer cause they were also dogs I somehow remember the 49 state vehicle could not pass Cailf. smog. and that was what created that car. Back in the day Fleet customers were huge business.

But back to the original post whoever made the seat belts probably didn't make just one set so there could be more out there

Ed Fernandez 05-21-2013 01:32 AM

Re: Racer Suspension $5000 - are you crazy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 382313)
Holier than Thou huh? I'm thinkin' no! But I wasn't blowing smoke rings up anybodys a** to get it put in the guide either. I can take somebody like you calling me a hypocrite, no problem. If you talked to Mr. Lang about that deal, I'm pretty sure that you would find that I'm the one that finally got it removed. NHRA knows very well how I feel about the 327 intake on a 283 deal. That's not over yet. My next bogus part? Getting the TRW race piston specs removed from the 70 AMC 390 and getting the right piston specs put back in!

Oh come on now Bill.The god (notice small case g) of AMC racing and the matinee idol of AMC racing boards would never have bogus pistons in his garage racing AMX.
Shame on you. Tsk tsk tsk.

Mark Yacavone 05-21-2013 01:39 AM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Schweigert (Post 382380)
Billy, I'm pretty sure it was a 260 4bbl I worked in Pontiac dealers for years the car was only available in California for one year. I remember a lot of complaining from the fleet customers cause the 1980's were POS with the 231 6 cylinder so the 260 was the answer not a good answer cause they were also dogs I somehow remember the 49 state vehicle could not pass Cailf. smog. and that was what created that car. Back in the day Fleet customers were huge business.

But back to the original post whoever made the seat belts probably didn't make just one set so there could be more out there

Hi Joe, I'm having trouble with this thing being made..anywhere, still...and the .474 lift cam too.

Tom keedle 05-21-2013 05:45 AM

Re: Racer Suspension $5000 - are you crazy
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 382387)
Oh come on now Bill.The god (notice small case g) of AMC racing and the matinee idol of AMC racing boards would never have bogus pistons in his garage racing AMX.
Shame on you. Tsk tsk tsk.

i know a few of us amc racers got hung out to dry on the intake/carb/cams.....and i blame NHRA for not checking before puting it in the specs....

Dan Bernay 05-21-2013 06:22 AM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Wasn't this tread about seatbelts?


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