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novassdude 11-17-2016 03:20 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 520053)
Here is a "new" thought - they should both be out - no almost winner.

Red light and you lose - simple to figure out.

Does not favor fast or slow cars - favors good drivers.


Ron

I like it Fair for everyone.

Another Friendly Racer 11-17-2016 03:39 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 520014)
Please explain, thx, B

Reasons to be against Tru-Start:

* I don't understand what Tru-Start is.

* I have a higher classified car and like my advantage as the game currently stands.

* My motives/intelligence/manhood will be questioned over internet message boards if I support this change.

* Peter and Kyle are successful enough. I feel envious.

* Change scares me.

Mickey Whaley 11-17-2016 03:42 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 520050)
I still can't believe the amount of people that don't get it

You are right it has worked forever now they want a change whats next free entry fees LOL

Mickey Whaley 11-17-2016 03:46 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer (Post 520057)
Reasons to be against Tru-Start:

* I don't understand what Tru-Start is.

* I have a higher classified car and like my advantage as the game currently stands.

* My motives/intelligence/manhood will be questioned over internet message boards if I support this change.

* Peter and Kyle are successful enough. I feel envious.

* Change scares me.

What class do you run and your name?

Bob Mulry 11-17-2016 03:48 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 520059)
You are right it has worked forever now they want a change whats next free entry fees LOL


I guess that you didn't get it either.....

Mickey Whaley 11-17-2016 03:54 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 520063)
I guess that you didn't get it either.....

Yep I get the electric bill and pay taxes just like always you don't get it

7423 11-17-2016 04:29 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer (Post 520057)
Reasons to be against Tru-Start:

* I don't understand what Tru-Start is.

* I have a higher classified car and like my advantage as the game currently stands.

* My motives/intelligence/manhood will be questioned over internet message boards if I support this change.

* Peter and Kyle are successful enough. I feel envious.

* Change scares me.

I would say that perfectly describes a large group on this thread....................How much of this covers your thoughts Mickey Whaley??

Mickey Whaley 11-17-2016 04:51 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 7423 (Post 520068)
I would say that perfectly describes a large group on this thread....................How much of this covers your thoughts Mickey Whaley??

You are right Charlie I run motorcycles only but I can run my dial in the people I see here have never won a damn thing see if NHRA changes anything for you CHARLIE ????????

7423 11-17-2016 05:01 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 520070)
You are right Charlie I run motorcycles only but I can run my dial in the people I see here have never won a damn thing see if NHRA changes anything for you CHARLIE ????????

Changes for me??? None that would matter. I bracket race at several tracks that already have or will have tru-start in use in 2017. All of our big $ races use it. Bottom bulb, foot brake, shoe polish dials, you know, bracket racing. The big difference between S/SS and bracket racing is the size of the ego.

Spring Fling 11-17-2016 05:09 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Class Racer's are very passionate about Stock and Super Stock as seen in this topic and others in the past.

Peter and I felt it was time to level the playing field at our Spring Fling events and thought it was time to make this worst red light change. While this scenario (double red) may only play out say in 1-1.5% of all "top bulb" pairs that is still needed to be changed. When timing systems were first built they only had the ability to see the first red, so that's why we see it this way decades later.

We also want to see Bracket Racing stay as healthy and cost effective as possible as the ets are getting quicker and quicker. With this change we felt that it could possibly get the cost down long term with a more level playing field.

I totally realize that Stock and Super Stock are performance based classes and that the change to these classes might be a little tougher but I feel that it's for the better of the classes long term.

Let's take Stock for instance. There has been a big change over the past decade with the influx of factory stock cars. I'm sure some will debate this but for the most part these cars are faster and more consistent then your traditional "muscle cars". At Indy this year at the US Nationals the ave handicap in Stock first round was 1.32 seconds in the 64 pairs contested. This will only get bigger over the next decade and I feel that a small change like this will only help the class long term.

Thanks for listening and good luck to all.
-Kyle Seipel


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