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Frank Castros 12-07-2016 10:15 PM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
I believe the NHRA has zero interest in revitalizing Pro Stock and would prefer Pro Mod as a replacement.
The theory being discussed on this thread is a pipe dream for those of us who witnessed the birth of Pro Stock.
The NHRA wants to simplify not complicate things.

Bernie Cunningham 12-07-2016 10:15 PM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
http://www.nhra.com/story/2016/12/7/...ock-camaro-ss/


What the heck, that's what the street car should look like, it's better and WAY more beautiful looking.

James L Miller 12-08-2016 11:06 AM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 521503)
But the Challengers are a pretty brick, especially in Fuschia or Blue.

True. I love my wimpy V6 street brick. Inferno Red, sort of like Candy Red.

Chris1529 12-08-2016 11:52 AM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
If you would put a flat hood on the new NHRA Camaro, it looks a lot like a Toyota Camry.

Barry Polley 01-12-2017 01:44 PM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
Better show up with a truckload of sheet metal. Your going to need it. So if I'm reading this correctly, move the Factory Race Cars currently running stock.... Into a newly formed Pro Stock?

600ci 01-12-2017 04:27 PM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Delahanty (Post 520776)
Here is the source: http://dragcoverage.com/factory-cars-pro-stock-2018/

No "sources" listed - looks to be all speculation. Written by by Mike (Shabs) Shabarek

Now while this isn’t the official Press Release that you’ll read from Glendora, it is very much so a probable reality. As most of us know Mopar has left Pro Stock. Now while it is the racers favorite class by far over T/F and F/C it is dying. That is no surprise. After losing several teams with the 2016 rules package this past season to say that this writers favorite class is on life support is a massive understatement.

Here’s my prediction, Pro Stock as we know it will not exist in 2019.

Why?

Well it’s simple, the cars have not related to the production model for over 15 years now. The cars cost too much money to purchase, engine cost and maintenance are astronomical, and it takes four guys to service a car between rounds. If I am an executive at GM or Ford or Mopar why on Earth would I support the NHRA’s form of Pro Stock? Now in the beginning the Pro Stock class emerged from the production-based Super Stock class in 1970 with a more liberal set of rules and an absence of handicaps. In that previous sentence the words “Production-Based” have incomprehensible weight. The early days of Sox & Martin, “Dyno” Don Nicholson, & Bill “Grumpy” Jenkins racing Super Stock cars with wider tires, bigger engines, and more elaborate chassis setups brought the crowds in by groves and the old adage of “win on Sunday, sell on Monday” became a way of life for racers & executives alike.

As Merle Haggard said “Are the good times really over for good?” I’d have to say HELL NO when it comes to Pro Stock.

So what’s gonna happen? Very simple. What if I told you there’s a “Pro Stock in Waiting” class? One with literally over 100 cars ready to go RIGHT NOW!! GM has produced 69 COPO’s every year for the past few years. Ford & Mopar have other ways of purchasing for customers but from our best educated guesses there’s about 150 Cobra Jets and Drag Pak’s floating around. Whether we see naturally aspirated or supercharged entries allowed are about a 50/50 shot.

But a few things that should not be changed are:
1.) 9″ Tires
2.) Factory Mass Produced Based Engines
3.) All Engine Blocks & Cylinder Heads Factory Produced
4.) Automatic Transmission Cars Get No Weight Break (encourages stick shift cars)
5.) Stock Style Front Suspension
6.) Stock Quarters, Roof, and Doors
7.) Stock Interior
8.) 48″ Wheelie Bar(s) Maximum Length
9.) 4 Forward Speeds Maximum For Stick Cars, 3 Forward Maximum for Automatics

What will this create? High seven second cars that look EXACTLY like Camaro’s, Challenger’s, and Mustang’s both inside and out that the customer can go buy seven days a week from the dealership. The racing on the track will be extremely tight and exciting with such a small tire and four speeds. Big wheelstands, pedal fests, and big time MPH from Factory Race Cars in a heads up format. What’s not to love?

Let the discussion begin.

all this has been proposed 2 years ago to nhra but at that time it was called
Jr pro stock same guide lines pretty much but when your dealing with def
ears........................................

Ed Wright 01-12-2017 05:35 PM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khelms (Post 520816)
Big Tire, 5 speed, 500 c.i. , 4L blower (or bigger) with you pickem pulleys. Must retain Production quarters,roof, doors. Make the wheelbase the same for all. They need to be in the 6 second range to look good on TV.

I agree. Too many crashes & aborted runs with small tires. Slower factory cars? Nobody would watch those for sure.
Ask the present Pro Stock owners what they need.

Dan Wilson 01-12-2017 05:59 PM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
Pro stock should be left to its own end.

FS cars should have their own classes heads up only. 3200 lb.

FSA fastest 350cu in supercharged.

FSB 426/427/428 NA

FSC 350 NA

no FS cars allowed in stock This will put*stock guys in these classes.

The pro stock guys/galls who no longer can afford PS can go to these classes.

Dan

hutt1 01-13-2017 09:26 AM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
Keep in mind once you add PRO to the class you will increase costs by 10 fold. I know you guys have great R&D programs but when you put a staff of several brilliant racing teams on it they will find stuff that will cost everyone money to keep up...
Scott

hutt1 01-13-2017 09:40 AM

Re: Factory Cars to Pro Stock in 2018 - Speculative Web Arti
 
why not net the P/S cars keep from the back of the block all the same as now. Then let them have a certain cubic inch, accepted block, factory heads no billet pieces and a power adder that is the same for everyone. I know John Mihovetz goes 5s with a lot of factory pieces..

http://www.enginelabs.com/features/c...john-mihovetz/


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