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Pauley 10-10-2024 08:22 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
All i know is this past weekend at bracket finals at Darlington my vega was pulling the wheels about 2 to 3 feet sitting them down right at the 60? going 1.26 60? 3.71 330? and 5.77 660?. Had the bye at 3 cars and proceeded to do a 120? wheelie going 1.34 60? 3.71 330? and 5.773 on a 5.77 dial. So I personally dont see any difference in et and wheelie size. Now if you didnt daylight the wheel at launch and rolled through the beams at launch i could see it being faster because you are getting a running start at the timing system. But i think it would be minimal et gain.

Ep

1320racer 10-10-2024 09:07 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gump (Post 703903)
a monster wheelie will absolutely burn a bunch of et...

GUMP...knows!

Billy Nees 10-10-2024 09:16 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 703967)
AGAIN, for those that don't understand how the timing system works and we know there are many here, just ask them how autostart works :D and for those that failed basic math...

if you get to the 60 foot clocks slower and you WILL, breaking the beam with any part of the car behind the front tires no mind the back tires, you WILL run a slower ET!

Ed, what does the 60' beam being broken by any part of the car other than the front tire have to do with your overall E.T.? IF the car is staged in the same spot and everything else about the run remains consistent? If the car isn't "bothered" by more or less of a wheelstand then the E.T. difference between the staging beam and the finish line beam has nothing to do with the 60' beam.
A "wheelstand" is nothing more than a residual effect of traction, power and acceleration. The proper control of a "wheelstand" will create the best E.T..

James Perrone 10-10-2024 09:19 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
In my sb stocker
It?s gotta wheelie or it slows down
I tighten up the shocks. Years ago it slows down like 5 hundreds
Now in aBB high powered 396 I hear tighten it up it goes faster
Watch Jim Boudreau car tight is right

Billy Nees 10-10-2024 09:39 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 703981)
In my sb stocker
It?s gotta wheelie or it slows down

Ya know Ponko, Even cars like my Novas which wouldn't wheelstand on their best day will slow down if I have the front shocks too tight. Each car and combo wants what it wants and they're all different.

TOSTO RACING 10-10-2024 09:46 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Billy that's a great point all cars are different ,Another example of my personal car is I had my shocks way too tight my first couple of runs with my car last week and my 60's were 1.39 both passes . So there is something to your statement for sure. Every car just has to find its own sweet spot for the best ET.

1320racer 10-10-2024 09:59 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 703979)
Ed, what does the 60' beam being broken by any part of the car other than the front tire have to do with your overall E.T.? IF the car is staged in the same spot and everything else about the run remains consistent? If the car isn't "bothered" by more or less of a wheelstand then the E.T. difference between the staging beam and the finish line beam has nothing to do with the 60' beam.
.

what you lose or gain in 60 foot directly effects the ET!

That said, I invite you to come to Numidia next season on a bracket day and I'll show what the change in 60 foot does to the ET. I'll launch wheels up, breaking the 60 foot with the back tires and the next pass I'll tighten the front shocks up all the way launching with the front wheels just off the track. My car doesn't need to wheelie to dead hook, it will hook in a puddle!

Stan Weiss 10-10-2024 10:10 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 703979)
Ed, what does the 60' beam being broken by any part of the car other than the front tire have to do with your overall E.T.? IF the car is staged in the same spot and everything else about the run remains consistent? If the car isn't "bothered" by more or less of a wheelstand then the E.T. difference between the staging beam and the finish line beam has nothing to do with the 60' beam.
A "wheelstand" is nothing more than a residual effect of traction, power and acceleration. The proper control of a "wheelstand" will create the best E.T..


Billy,
Back in my post #68


Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 703937)
What some people are having a hard time grasping, is if you hit the 60 foot light with your back wheel. Then that time is really for 60 foot plus your wheelbase.


Stan


This is just to hard for some people to grasp.



Stan

Monte Howard 10-10-2024 10:18 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
I have a question for 1320. You might have a Superstock chassis and you may think that the car doesn?t care what Engine is under the hood. BUT what is your starting line ratio? I bet it?s not the same as a superstocker

1320racer 10-10-2024 10:21 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
it was, it's not now and that has nothing to do with this conversation which is about...

"ET with and without wheelie

SLR is internet forum malarkey like dynamic compression ratio


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