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Chuck Garey 05-21-2013 08:22 AM

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I find it interesting that alot of us get on planes everyday that are 20 years or older (and private planes even older) with belts that are deemed comepletely safe by FAA but NHRA makes us change every 2 years.

SSDiv6 05-21-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Garey (Post 382403)
I find it interesting that alot of us get on planes everyday that are 20 years or older (and private planes even older) with belts that are deemed comepletely safe by FAA but NHRA makes us change every 2 years.

The Boeing 777 has an inspection interval of 12000 hours of operation for seat belts. This is only an inspection, not replacement. It is subjective; you inspect the belts and if they look, appear worn or frayed, or the mechanism does not work, then they are replaced.

jmcarter 05-21-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 382413)
The Boeing 777 has an inspection interval of 12000 hours of operation for seat belts. This is only an inspection, not replacement. It is subjective; you inspect the belts and if they look, appear worn or frayed, or the mechanism does not work, then they are replaced.

And this is from a industry that puts safety as the #1 priority. Having worked in that industry for over 30 years and having experience with SCCA and other sanctioning bodies I think many of the NHRA safety rules are arbitrary window dressing that defy common sense and dumb down tech inspection (no disrespect to the great tech folks). They send hand grenades down the track and make small incremental safety steps and have failed to develop a tire/wheel tether system or body integrity systems that would keep flopper bodies out of the spectator areas. Biggest safety advance they could make would be to roll back 40 years and institute the Big Daddy rules package (I.e.starts at the end of a run or you are disqualified). They'd get bigger fields in the PRO's and take less time to run, make track prep equal for everyone as well. Instead they enforce non-sensical rules like the belts which chafe at all the sportsmen racers, not all of whom have 500K operations. Wonder how long dragster racers lobbied for a secondary hand brake? Too long....

All that said, it's their rules so if you want to play on their sandlot then it is what it is.

Ed Wright 05-21-2013 12:07 PM

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NHRA is simply requiring repeat business for companies in return for their sponsorship, right?

SSDiv6 05-21-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 382450)
NHRA is simply requiring repeat business for companies in return for their sponsorship, right?

Especially when Carl Olson, former NHRA VP, is the Motorsports Manager at SFI...

Doug Blackley 05-21-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Bernay (Post 382397)
Wasn't this tread about seatbelts?

You didn't get the change of topic memo? LOL

Pedigo Perf 05-22-2013 07:32 AM

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Biggest safety advance they could make would be to roll back 40 years and institute the Big Daddy rules package (I.e.starts at the end of a run or you are disqualified).

Sorry, I am only in my early fifties. What does this "starts at the end of a run" mean?

jmcarter 05-22-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf (Post 382575)
Biggest safety advance they could make would be to roll back 40 years and institute the Big Daddy rules package (I.e.starts at the end of a run or you are disqualified).

Sorry, I am only in my early fifties. What does this "starts at the end of a run" mean?

Big advocated a rules package that included at the end of a run the fuel cars should be able to restart and run. If they couldn't they would be disqualified. He had a well thought out proposal to control cost and improve the racing but guys like Bernstein advocated the go fast approach that requires mega sponsorship $$$ to field a car. The DSR/JFR circus is the result.....

Mike Taylor 3601 05-22-2013 08:11 AM

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means that car would have to be able to start and run at end of track,nitro cars.
Big Daddy thought it would be good,cut back on oil downs and keep guys from leaning on stuff so hard they blew up every pass.
Mike Taylor 3601


I type way too slow

Painter 05-22-2013 08:55 AM

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Maybe another magneto and a bigger fuel pump would help you're typing speed! Lol


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