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pmrphil 10-01-2024 12:11 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
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Originally Posted by jaythorne (Post 703540)
so what youre saying is that just because an illegally modified part passed one time that said illegally modified part is now a legal part?
..you should be a laywer...or maybe you are..............

They already did exactly that with the blower pulleys - illegal when they checked them, then made legal 2 days later.

Billy Nees 10-01-2024 04:06 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Ya know, as much as I would like to think that Factory X or Factory Stock is going to be the future of Pro Stock, with only the Mustang being built anymore NHRA is going to wind up with another nostalgia eliminator on it's hands in a couple of years.
IMHO, what they should be looking into for a future "PRO" eliminator would be either (heaven forbid!) the Factory race engines in pickups (a bodystyle that isn't going away and can be kept current) or small SUVs with 2 liter turbo engines. And the advantage of the latter would be all of the manufacturers world-wide that build small SUVs and 2 liter turbo engines who COULD become involved.

Charles Stewart 10-01-2024 04:18 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 703552)
Ya know, as much as I would like to think that Factory X or Factory Stock is going to be the future of Pro Stock, with only the Mustang being built anymore NHRA is going to wind up with another nostalgia eliminator on it's hands in a couple of years.
IMHO, what they should be looking into for a future "PRO" eliminator would be either (heaven forbid!) the Factory race engines in pickups (a bodystyle that isn't going away and can be kept current) or small SUVs with 2 liter turbo engines. And the advantage of the latter would be all of the manufacturers world-wide that build small SUVs and 2 liter turbo engines who COULD become involved.

Very interesting vision Mr. Nees,
Keep on,

1matcoman 10-01-2024 04:23 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
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Originally Posted by jaythorne (Post 703541)
and six cars is a show???
that class isnt growing much seems to me...me thinks that the racers that want to put that much effort and money into one of those cars is already racing pro stock...and with the weekly rules pencil dont see it growing much..

Pro Stock Truck drew a lot more interest than this new "class".

Frank Castros 10-01-2024 04:30 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
The National Hot Rod Association has many decisions to make for the future of the sport don't they?

Billy Nees is correct (as usual) FX seems to be unsustainable in it's current configuration. I like the idea of Pro Stock Truck (can imagine the giant egg on their face) but it is sustainable. Pickup trucks are here forever.

Doug Hoven 10-01-2024 04:34 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 703552)
Ya know, as much as I would like to think that Factory X or Factory Stock is going to be the future of Pro Stock, with only the Mustang being built anymore NHRA is going to wind up with another nostalgia eliminator on it's hands in a couple of years.
IMHO, what they should be looking into for a future "PRO" eliminator would be either (heaven forbid!) the Factory race engines in pickups (a bodystyle that isn't going away and can be kept current) or small SUVs with 2 liter turbo engines. And the advantage of the latter would be all of the manufacturers world-wide that build small SUVs and 2 liter turbo engines who COULD become involved.

I've wondered the same regarding the future of Factory Stock being that the mustang is the only car of the three that is still being built. I think the factory stock engines in 1/2 ton pickup trucks would be neat. Maybe another idea would be to use the newly popular "compact" pickup such as a Ford Maverick or Ranger, Chevy Colorado, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Frontier, Honda Ridgeline, Hyundai Santa Cruz. Most of those companies makes a 2.0ish liter turbo engine. Maybe limit displacement, use a spec turbo, limit cylinder head modification. I know that imports can be a shaky subject, but they way outsell US made cars, and sure aren't going away any time soon. Maybe open up to a little wider fan base than just the "American Muscle" enthusiast.

Dan Bennett 10-01-2024 04:49 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
For me, this is just another example of non-racing execs trying to save a great class they've managed to ruin. And as so often in the past, create something that people just want to look away from.

Billy Nees 10-01-2024 04:49 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 703555)
The National Hot Rod Association has many decisions to make for the future of the sport don't they?

They sure do Frank! If they want to stay in business for a bit more than the foreseeable future.

jmcarter 10-01-2024 04:55 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
I can?t fault the logic of such a small pickup 2 liter turbo class but would the import racing subculture really be interested after they saw how NHRA treated Cary Bales? Would current class leaders be willing to make huge investments to play in a pencil whip class?

Billy Nees 10-01-2024 05:01 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 703561)
Would current class leaders be willing to make huge investments to play in a pencil whip class?

They are making the "investments" now and tolerating the "pencil whippings"!


Ya know, about a million years ago Michael Beard proposed an "International Pro Stock" class to IHRA's Bill Bader Sr. (may he rest in peace). As I recall, he showed an interest in it but had too many other things going on at the time.


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