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Thank you for the photos, very helpful, and looks terrific. I assume that Tim at FHO is just concerned because the engine is going to be making 300 or more hp than the current one. But I posed the question to him, does he think it is absolutely necessary, because I would rather go without it, if possible. He hasn't responded yet.

As for the trunk lid, I too questioned whether it might be possible that the lid itself was just that heavy without the mechanical assistance, but the weight seems extreme. Also, the certainty of added weight was confirmed when I was put in touch with an old racer who was friends with Dick Smith and worked on the car, and said he "thought we put about 100 lbs of lead in the trunk lid of Dicks car"! Yup, that sounds about right, lol.

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The car was sorted out (I assume) in its current configuration, but it will have MUCH more power, as well as 150 (?) lbs less weight already in the front end. Plus much different tire technology, and probably some other factors I haven't considered, and suddenly I think it is going to need some more "sorting" as I go along here. But I agree with you and Charlie A- start with it as is, and can always paint up a different trunk lid if I need to lighten the rear later. Thank you guys for the responses.

Yep, just single Holley regulator on the Hemi in the GTX. You worried it might not deliver enough fuel? That's just what was supplying the 440 that the car came with, and I guess I never thought about it when we swapped the hemi. Seems to be working fine. I run a mechanical fuel pressure gauge and keep tabs on things..

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I have no info on that pic., I found it over at Yellowbullet.

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LO23. re holley regulator. Fine for going for coffee but definitely not for a quarter mile pass. Consult with your engine builder, Tim, about proper fuel delivery and ignition to support the power he's building you.

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My motor dynoed over 900hp and 725 ft lbs. Just for perspective. 490 cubes

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Just for perspective. The 490 Elfhunt in my Dart dynoed over 900 hp and 725 ft. lbs mounted in OEM location. It is steel tho not alloy. Difference being location where the pull is located. The alloy block may be more stable using themotor plate in the front of it

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Ignition- I did ask him about, and he set up the MSD distributor and I am running an MSD 7 box.

As for fuel- I think I have a Holley black electric pump (not at home currently to check), and the Holley regulator. Like I said, mechanical fuel gauge shows steady, adequate supply under all conditions, but I will look into it further... don't want to toast that wonderful hemi. Thank you for the tip.

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Got it. Thank you. I will be sure to visit with Tim some more to get the particulars. 900/725- nice! Have you ever taken it down the strip with your current setup ?

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Does anyone have any more pictures of the Shadowoods Barracuda in post 4477?

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Kirk barnett posted this on facebook. I'm wondering if this could be the King Dart before lettering. Also known as Spider.


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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8n5vux5l.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psigkcuwaf.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psi8wpq7wx.png
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psvfnojkqr.jpg

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Looks like same picture at a different angle:



https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...86&oe=599258BC

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That car in the other lane is another reason I have been forever hooked on the Hemi Darts and Cudas. That was Big Joe Teuton, in a primered Hemi Dart, pulling wheelies, and grabbing gears, and if my memory serves me right , he beat the Shadowoods car, which looked like a pro stocker. The Shadowoods car was so neat looking, and I was super impressed with it, and I'm checking it out, and all of a sudden Big Joe is putting a whipping on them.
Great memory for me from the SportsNationals in Bowling Green!
Hopefully my memory is good!

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http://108.imagebam.com/download/KWd...23889/1279.jpg


Like the Motor Wheel Flys on the front and the Spyders on the rear! Some cool old wheels!

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Same car...Different owner:


http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ps5d19cf9e.jpg

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Anyone know this one? History?


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1425945843

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Another "rear view" photo :)


This is Daryl's before it's restoration:


http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...t1985_0003.jpg

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Rear View:


http://classracer.com/magazine/wp-co...-hemi-dart.jpg

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Rear View:


https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/sc05...43475_3@2x.jpg

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Yep....another "rear view".
This is Daryl's LO23.
This car is also the primary reason the Nostalgia Stock and Super Stock forum exists. (to the best of my memory)


http://st.hotrod.com/uploads/sites/2...k-rear-end.jpg

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Great photos, Charlie- always so fun to see! Daryl's Dart is set up so well, has that perfect, clean look and such a mean stance. Makes me really think about "streeting" mine.


So, Tim Banning (FHO) says I CAN use motor mounts if I want, but in his experience people find it easier to use a front engine plate due to ease of installation, strengthening the front end, more clearance for oil pump, and easy mounting of water pump, air pump, etc. Also said that it would be easier to move the engine slightly forward if need be, since I will be using a Mopar cross ram, and clearance will be tight. Not sure which way I should go.


If people reading here have a A-body hemi, and wouldn't mind posting photos of how their engine is set up in the engine bay (or have any advice), I would certainly appreciate the help!


Clint

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An older photo (Hot Rod magazine picture I think) of Daryl's engine:


http://st.hotrod.com/uploads/sites/2...ngine-view.jpg

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Clint
Thankyou for the good words I appreciate it.
Any kind of factory "style" of cast X rams fit in these cars in the OEM location. Sheetmetal ones are a whole different story.
You will find that as you are working on that car that if you change the location of one item it literally affects 10 other things .
Its freakin tight with very little wiggle room if you are trying to retain as much of the original unmodified car as possible. I cant run a mechanical fan on mine with the big rad required to keep this thing cool. Even had to notch the electric fan shrouds for pulley clearance.

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www.moparsbymosher.com

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Got it- thanks!

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Thanks Frank- some good pics there!

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Afacebook find. Kirk Barnnet son of Warren posted this . Its a real LO23 he says but knows nothing on it or the owner. Looks like tha S&M RO behind it too

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http://classracer.com/classforum/att...7&d=1491841015

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Daryl,


Any idea on who this one belonged to?


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1425945843

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Could someone tell me what height/width tires are on "lite weight" car as shown in the rearend photo? Thanks in advance.

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Daryl, your phone is ringing!!

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That may be Jerry Nowacki, or right after Jerry sold the car. Ex-Dick Oldfield.

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You sir are correct..... (applause)


Guessing with the name removed from the door it is a "post sale" picture. Any idea who was the buyer?


http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps45a07f7a.jpg

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Did the above LO23 become this one?


Older post from Daryl ( Liteweight )thought it might have.


http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psb2a5a150.jpg

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This one?



http://bangshift.com/wp-content/uplo...k-Oldfield.jpg

http://www.quartermilestones.com/pho...2/RMAA6803.jpg

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All the same car. The white hat paint is from '68. Dick Oldfield sold the car to Don Knight (blue paint), who sold the car to Nowacki.

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Do you know who Nowacki sold it to or where it is now?
Always looking.


Thanks!!!

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I will have to get some current pics of the Cooper car, it looks a lot like Daryl's car as in the same color. It will be at Carlisle this year in the Hurst display.