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Joe Demarais 12-15-2009 12:44 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
It's tuesday, and it isn't black!!!!!

Jack McCarthy 12-15-2009 01:23 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
wow 12,000 hits and very little intelligence wasted on the posts...

billy nees is right...99% of enhancements havent helped him (or me)
terry bell is right...class winners should get to race, if only them so be it... more odd cars !

and once again nhra doesnt care...so YAC is right !

sounds like a broken record... just like me for over 5 years...
Automatic Help For Slugs CAN NOT and WILL NOT ever work...we manipulate the input #
and lower the indexes -.50 > why toby lang ? how many people would watch baseball if the wall was at 150 feet ? since the enhancements the game is STUPID easy !

just had to post on this thread... too much fun here !

Billy Nees 12-15-2009 01:36 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 156856)
In "My Opinion" :

Several "Changes" from NHRA helped save Stock and Super Stock racing .

The implantation of The Index system to create a level playing field.
Agree! Lets more people participate than running off records.
The almost perfect altitude correction factor to the indexes to help level the playing field
Except that it doesn't correlate to AHFS!
The implantation of The GT classes in Super Stock to create some new classes race on Sunday sell on Monday
Agree!
The involvement of the factories in the GT Classes when the "new " GT classes were started
Agree!
The automatic factoring system overhaul to help level the playing field
Agree! Beats the hell out of arbitrary HP hits but not really leveling the playing field, more like necessary method for policing new combos.
Allowing the hemis cars to have their own class to create some excitement of fans of these cars
No comment, doesn't concern me.
Having Chrysler and Ford be involved in Stock and Super Stock to insure the future of Super Stock and Stock racing with factory backing.

Absolutely Agree! BUT NHRA has to stop with the *** kissing!

It's hard to disagree with your list Don but you're brushing with pretty broad strokes!

Mark Yacavone 12-15-2009 03:28 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Lang (Post 156626)
I guess I fail to follow your logic. Let's say they do lower the indexes by 3 tenths. Then next year at Indy somebody qualifies 140th (dead last) at -0.06. Then he goes to the very next national event and wins it. What's changed? (Besides the fields being smaller.) Would you want to lower the indexes another 3 tenths???


-Toby

I didn't adequately answer this the other night.

Last question first: No, just two. NHRA has already said you can't set a record or win class if you're not 5 under. They'll gladly take your money though. Why else for the double standard? Lower them .5 then.
Remember, it's a performance eliminator. We must retain heads up runs in the eliminator,at all cost.

Toby asked; what's the difference in my scenario. The difference is , Mr -.06 won't be able to win an eliminator, as well he shouldn't.

Will lowering the indexes reduce car counts? Don't know. No way to measure it, as they're already losing cars. I doubt it will though. Most cars can run 5 under with a little tune up. Maybe it will stimulate the industry a little.

Anyway, if they do raise the triggers, it certainly benefit the new cars from Ford and Chrysler. Coincidence? I doubt that ,too.

Billy Nees 12-15-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
Mark, I just did the math. Moving the indexes hurts WAY more people than changing the trigger helps!

X-TECH MAN 12-15-2009 03:50 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
Has anyone seen the 3 thenths reduction anywhere in black and white yet?

Jim Kaekel 12-15-2009 03:56 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
I was told by NHRA at the PRI show that there would be a .3 reduction and it would be up on the web site Tuesday.

X-TECH MAN 12-15-2009 04:09 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 156904)
I was told by NHRA at the PRI show that there would be a .3 reduction and it would be up on the web site Tuesday.

Its Tuesday....been looking and havent seen a thing yet.

Jim Kaekel 12-15-2009 04:11 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
Maybe their going to postpone until.....black Friday!

hadtobethere 12-15-2009 04:20 PM

Re: Black Tuesday?
 
....it has been so quiet at NHRA, someone said you could hear a turd drop...


EDIT: maybe that was a tear drop


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