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Adger Smith 02-05-2017 05:53 PM

Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
Joe,(Div 6)
I do have all the paper work and the story on the AMC issues. I was poking fun at Jeff Lee. There was actually a couple more guys that "Lost Bigger" in that deal than he did. I had 2 engine customers involved when the AMC approvals were rescinded. Yes, it cost me and them, but it was probably the right thing for NHRA to do. This manifold deal I have no dog in, but if it is going to be allowed they should look at the Z-28 Cross Ram and the '67 L-88, (can you say Camaro Cowl Hood)...to apply the same fairness and the Spirit of making the rules. At the Least those 2 or 3 issues need to be addressed. The LD manifold & AVS.. OK it fits, but for a Thermo Quad carb, come on...

Chris DeGidio 02-05-2017 06:05 PM

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We have been racing MoPar since 1972. We also were a WD for MoPar back in the 80's-early 90's. Chrysler would have Edelbrock cast a Chrysler part number into many intakes in order to sell it over the counter as one of their parts. I have several odd pieces from Edelbrock that have Chrysler numbers in them...one example is a Edelbrock STR intake manifold top for use with a TQ carburetor.They did the same thing with other suppliers too,such as Prestolite with their distributors and ignition parts.

I don't have a dog in this fight,just giving some historical parts info.

Jim Storms 02-05-2017 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 526058)
Joe,(Div 6)
I do have all the paper work and the story on the AMC issues. I was poking fun at Jeff Lee. There was actually a couple more guys that "Lost Bigger" in that deal than he did. I had 2 engine customers involved when the AMC approvals were rescinded. Yes, it cost me and them, but it was probably the right thing for NHRA to do. This manifold deal I have no dog in, but if it is going to be allowed they should look at the Z-28 Cross Ram and the '67 L-88, (can you say Camaro Cowl Hood)...to apply the same fairness and the Spirit of making the rules. At the Least those 2 or 3 issues need to be addressed. The LD manifold & AVS.. OK it fits, but for a Thermo Quad carb, come on...

I'm sure the 71 year will be corrected in the guide. 68-70 only AVS

Gordie Kissner 02-05-2017 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Storms (Post 526062)
I'm sure the 71 year will be corrected in the guide. 68-70 only AVS

I have the spread bore version of the LD340 with the Chrysler part number on it..and yes it's an unmodified original and no its not for sale. lol

And no, I don't currently have a dog in the fight!

George Mirza 02-05-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordie Kissner (Post 526065)
I have the spread bore version of the LD340 with the Chrysler part number on it..and yes it's an unmodified original and no its not for sale. lol

And no, I don't currently have a dog in the fight!

Gordie,
Is it the same part # as the square bore AVS manifold?

Gordie Kissner 02-05-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by George Mirza (Post 526067)
Gordie,
Is it the same part # as the square bore AVS manifold?

George,
I am currently out of state and can't lay my eyes on them right now, but am 99.9% sure it is the same # as the square bore version..I have 2 of the square bore version and 2 of the spread bore.

fred goodwin 02-05-2017 08:25 PM

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WOW there is one on ebay right now! $700

SSDiv6 02-05-2017 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 526058)
Joe,(Div 6)
I do have all the paper work and the story on the AMC issues. I was poking fun at Jeff Lee. There was actually a couple more guys that "Lost Bigger" in that deal than he did. I had 2 engine customers involved when the AMC approvals were rescinded. Yes, it cost me and them, but it was probably the right thing for NHRA to do. This manifold deal I have no dog in, but if it is going to be allowed they should look at the Z-28 Cross Ram and the '67 L-88, (can you say Camaro Cowl Hood)...to apply the same fairness and the Spirit of making the rules. At the Least those 2 or 3 issues need to be addressed. The LD manifold & AVS.. OK it fits, but for a Thermo Quad carb, come on...


Adger,

I understand what you are saying, however, if it was the right thing to do by NHRA, why would they make an example with the AMC racers, the smallest OEM brand/make in numbers of competitors, when there are other makes/brands that were given even bigger allowances in the past?

How about Boss 351 engines with Holley carburetors?
How about Chevy 283 engines with 327 intakes?
How about the single carburetor Hemi engine that was a NASCAR option?
How about higher lift off road cams for FE engines that were allowed just with a letter?

...and let's not forget illegal spec pistons when compared to the OEM piston, that have been approved?

I could write a book regarding the inconsistencies when changes were applied and allowed without any justifiable objective evidence or just by the stroke of a pen.

My point is that if NHRA was going to make an example, they should have made it across the board and not on a specific make and then continue approving aftermarket parts on other makes and brands.

Like Dr. Spock would say, "it's illogical"!

Ed Fernandez 02-05-2017 10:43 PM

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Quote: The powers to be i'm sure will manage it all in some form or another eventually.

Can someone tell me the last time the chiefs in Glendora made a sensible decision?

Dave Noll 02-06-2017 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 526073)
How about Boss 351 engines with Holley carburetors?

Uh ..... Yeah, there's one of those manifolds (the "D" unit) on E-Bay now for $2700. Makes 700 for the LD340 sound like a steal.


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