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mopar68 09-25-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frito (Post 545827)
There was an Atlanta SS/EA car that would hook on ice. Thanks to the hidden weight box in the top of the gas tank (before fuel cells) and quarter panels beat in and filled with bondo.

Are you sure it wasn't lead? Bondo has hardly any weight to it to justify going through all that trouble.

Liteweight 09-26-2017 02:59 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/gtFVpQ/FB_IMG_1505581080371_1.jpg

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Charlie A 09-26-2017 07:58 PM

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THAT is one fine picture!!!

Liteweight 09-28-2017 01:53 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/n2PkrG/wayne_dokin2.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/jKeDdw/wayne_doken1.jpg

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LO23 09-29-2017 12:03 PM

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Well, Tim Banning (For Hemis Only) finally has my engine ready to go... almost. On the dyno today, in fact. Can't wait to see the numbers.


Now the problem- he cannot seem to be able to scrounge up any of the old chromed-steel valve covers that I would like, for a old-school look. The ones with the orange super stock stickers on them. Does anybody here have a set that they would sell, or know a vendor where I can purchase some?

Liteweight 10-02-2017 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LO23 (Post 546436)
Well, Tim Banning (For Hemis Only) finally has my engine ready to go... almost. On the dyno today, in fact. Can't wait to see the numbers.


Now the problem- he cannot seem to be able to scrounge up any of the old chromed-steel valve covers that I would like, for a old-school look. The ones with the orange super stock stickers on them. Does anybody here have a set that they would sell, or know a vendor where I can purchase some?


Hey Clint

Good to hear.
Can you post a link if Tim does a video of it??
Interested in seeing some numbers on it also.

As far as valve covers go. The chrome covers that had the Super Stock Decals on them were actually 1964-65 covers that were used exclusively with the K Head.
The 68 Super Stock Hemi's used the same covers as the Street Hemi's that were finished in a wrinkle Black paint. This is assuming you are looking for a OEM look

If you want the chrome, just order up a set of repops for the 1966-1971 Street Hemi style,then add a set of repop decals.

These are an old set of original Nascar covers that have been "finessed" some to fit my application.
If you look at the valve gear clearance humps, these are actually factory stamped. Very rare and hard to find.

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https://image.ibb.co/kb4fJk/20170515_201220.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/m5Taik/20170430_112031.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/fyZgOk/20170430_112200.jpg

Liteweight 10-02-2017 03:56 PM

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Does anyone here recognize or remember this car. Ed Miller had an original LO23 that he converted into a Scamp to run Pro Stock for a very brief period, and I'm wondering if this could be it..
If you look closely I think it has black plastic buttons on the door handles which signifies they could be a set of 68 lightweight doors on it.

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https://image.ibb.co/b2rEJw/22090038...27984269_n.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/bPK6kb/ed_mille...rned_scamp.jpg

Liteweight 10-02-2017 04:10 PM

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A facebook steal...lol
Thought it was freakin awesome

https://image.ibb.co/fS6DWG/FB_IMG_1506909265110_1.jpg

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LO23 10-02-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 546644)
Hey Clint

Good to hear.
Can you post a link if Tim does a video of it??
Interested in seeing some numbers on it also.

As far as valve covers go. The chrome covers that had the Super Stock Decals on them were actually 1964-65 covers that were used exclusively with the K Head.
The 68 Super Stock Hemi's used the same covers as the Street Hemi's that were finished in a wrinkle Black paint. This is assuming you are looking for a OEM look

If you want the chrome, just order up a set of repops for the 1966-1971 Street Hemi style,then add a set of repop decals.

These are an old set of original Nascar covers that have been "finessed" some to fit my application.
If you look at the valve gear clearance humps, these are actually factory stamped. Very rare and hard to find.

liteweight



That was very helpful, thank you. I may just go with the black wrinkle finish, then. My car came with the chrome ones with the super stock decals, which I thought looked cool, but I guess I knew that it wasn't "correct". Not that my engine is going to fool anybody into thinking it is OEM correct. Jim Keyes also gave me a set of cool old aluminum covers that have the black plates/provisions for running dual plugs, and they look kinda cool, but not what I'm after. Yours look terrific.


I will post a video when I get one! I will try to attach a photo of it now...

Steve Stasko 10-03-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 546646)
Does anyone here recognize or remember this car. Ed Miller had an original LO23 that he converted into a Scamp to run Pro Stock for a very brief period, and I'm wondering if this could be it..
If you look closely I think it has black plastic buttons on the door handles which signifies they could be a set of 68 lightweight doors on it.

liteweight


https://image.ibb.co/b2rEJw/22090038...27984269_n.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/bPK6kb/ed_mille...rned_scamp.jpg

Different cars.

Liteweight 10-03-2017 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LO23 (Post 546659)
That was very helpful, thank you. I may just go with the black wrinkle finish, then. My car came with the chrome ones with the super stock decals, which I thought looked cool, but I guess I knew that it wasn't "correct". Not that my engine is going to fool anybody into thinking it is OEM correct. Jim Keyes also gave me a set of cool old aluminum covers that have the black plates/provisions for running dual plugs, and they look kinda cool, but not what I'm after. Yours look terrific.


I will post a video when I get one! I will try to attach a photo of it now...

Looks awesome Clint
You may have trouble fitting stocker valve covers that clear the valve train without some modifying due spring diameter & installed height, etc. Thats whyI looked for a set of these factory stamped Nascar ones. Lots of people clearance by ballpeen but that wasn't the look I wanted with mine.

I see a can of Q16gas. Thats a very serious swirl of fuel!!!!!!!

I'm seeing a vacuum pump, and a bunch of other very serious go fast stuff on that thing.
What kind of intake is that? A Mopar Performance??
Stock Carbs?
Whats the jetting? I'm seeing 73 written in felt pen.

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LO23 10-03-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 546716)
Looks awesome Clint
You may have trouble fitting stocker valve covers that clear the valve train without some modifying due spring diameter & installed height, etc. Thats whyI looked for a set of these factory stamped Nascar ones. Lots of people clearance by ballpeen but that wasn't the look I wanted with mine.

I see a can of Q16gas. Thats a very serious swirl of fuel!!!!!!!

I'm seeing a vacuum pump, and a bunch of other very serious go fast stuff on that thing.
What kind of intake is that? A Mopar Performance??
Stock Carbs?
Whats the jetting? I'm seeing 73 written in felt pen.

liteweight



Thank you! No worries, Tim is making a spacer/adapter for the valve covers, and if he can't make that work, I've grown rather fond of the black wrinkle aluminum ones shows in the photo anyway. But thanks for mentioning that potential issue.


The intake is an extensively modified MP piece. Lots of time in porting. Can't C&C that thing, unfortunately, but Tim really knows how to make the power, and he did that all by hand of course. I could sure make even more power with a sheet metal intake, but I really thought my car deserved at least a "pseudo factory" appearance, lol.


Carbs are Holley 770s but again, modified a good bit by Tim. Jetting is still being experimented with. I should have some final data in the next week or so.


Yeah, probably a good thing my shop is installing some wheelie bars...


:-)

Frito 10-03-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 546648)
A facebook steal...lol
Thought it was freakin awesome

https://image.ibb.co/fS6DWG/FB_IMG_1506909265110_1.jpg

liteweight

You don't have one of these????

Liteweight 10-04-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frito (Post 546754)
You don't have one of these????

Nope. first time I've seen it. Doug said he is going to set me up with one tho..

Love to see all the different versions out there.

This be mine

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https://image.ibb.co/fwcPG5/IMG_2423.jpg

Frito 10-04-2017 05:18 PM

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Ole Frito will take care of ya.

Liteweight 10-05-2017 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Frito (Post 546834)
Ole Frito will take care of ya.

Thanks Frito!!!!


Frito riding shotgun Mopar Nationals 2015. Frito be kinda like Waldo. Frito be everywhere. Just easier to spot....lol

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https://image.ibb.co/dtOZik/Frito.jpg

Liteweight 10-05-2017 10:03 AM

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Frito view 2013

https://image.ibb.co/dMgeQb/frito_view.jpg


another fritofoto

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https://image.ibb.co/cYD6Dk/olreddev...ps54e589ac.jpg

Liteweight 10-05-2017 12:06 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/hNx31G/FB_IMG_1506387770725_1.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/nhjY1G/FB_IMG_1506387750954_1.jpg


https://image.ibb.co/nzwSvb/FB_IMG_1506173450741_1.jpg


https://image.ibb.co/kHnp8w/FB_IMG_1506173411642_1.jpg

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mopar68 10-06-2017 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 546894)

Harry Holton Dart

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Some nice pix there!

mopar68 10-06-2017 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 546646)
Does anyone here recognize or remember this car.
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https://image.ibb.co/b2rEJw/22090038...27984269_n.jpg

Here's another shot this time running in Pro Stock.at the 1972 Indy Nationals,

https://image.ibb.co/nvgt3w/1972_Indy_Nationals_55.jpg

Check out the Sam Carroll Dart! Anyone know its history?

https://image.ibb.co/kLB1Ow/1972_Indy_Nationals_63.jpg

Hicks & Templin

https://image.ibb.co/dZ5dLb/mr_barda...ks_templin.jpg

Terry Witzel 10-06-2017 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 546046)
Remeber anything on this one Stewart.
Reportedly in Barnetts back yard back in late 60's????. Kirk Barnett does not
Note Ronnies RO behind it

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https://image.ibb.co/gNaTb5/lo23_green_kirk_barnett.jpg

Same car?

https://image.ibb.co/jnwSr5/img1113_vi_2.jpg

mopar68 10-06-2017 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry Witzel (Post 546985)
Same car?

I have no idea.

https://image.ibb.co/kidHVb/img107_vi.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/cv0xVb/asphalt_animal_jr_02.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/irhY3w/asphalt_animal_jr_03.jpg

mopar68 10-06-2017 06:37 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/jJeD3w/1972_Indy_Nationals_11.jpg

mopar68 10-06-2017 06:40 PM

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https://preview.ibb.co/dGEViw/1972_I...tionals_70.jpg

mopar68 10-06-2017 07:19 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/fc7rOw/bob_george.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/kv1wqb/bob_george_02.jpg

mopar68 10-06-2017 07:27 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/dse8mG/Castaldo_SSBA_0008_b.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/m45viw/Castaldo_SSBA_0006.jpg https://image.ibb.co/cokHwG/Castaldo_SSBA_0005.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/kt6eAb/Castaldo.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/hn8Fiw/Castaldo69_fx.jpg

jerry witzel 10-06-2017 07:31 PM

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Pic from Facebook.

mopar68 10-06-2017 07:36 PM

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One more photo of Charlie's Dart.

https://image.ibb.co/hhHYLb/charlie_castaldo.jpg

mopar68 10-06-2017 07:40 PM

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A rare photo of Chick DeNinno's "Fever" Dart.

https://image.ibb.co/nwQERG/chick_deninno.jpg

mopar68 10-06-2017 08:43 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/gCKSDw/joe_stevens_photos_123.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/ccAjtw/joe_stevens_photos_85.jpg

Liteweight 10-10-2017 02:31 PM

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Pete
This looks to be Melvin Yow's original LO23

https://image.ibb.co/cjfWtw/Melvin_Yow4.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/me1J6G/melvin_yow1.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/d4Yn0b/melvin_yow.jpg

This looks to be same car

https://image.ibb.co/cW7GRG/Charlie_...ks_Templin.jpg

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Liteweight 10-10-2017 02:47 PM

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I don't think this is an original LO23

Has Dodge emblem on C Pillar. Has Mirror on door. Has 270 style of trim panel on trunk lid

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Liteweight 10-10-2017 02:58 PM

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Charlie Castaldo Stick

https://image.ibb.co/f4tbtw/charlie_castaldo_stick4.jpg

Charlie Castaldo Auto

https://image.ibb.co/gMQNYw/charlie_castaldo_auto3.jpg

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Terry Witzel 10-11-2017 09:50 AM

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https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...ce&oe=5A74A2CC

Charlie A 10-11-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 547361)

And one of these I believe is the above Hicks/Templin car. Its restored back as a 68 and in Europe now.
http://www.classracer.com/classforum...3&d=1321472901

Liteweight 10-12-2017 04:15 PM

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My ALL TIME favorite LO23

https://image.ibb.co/gcRkMG/that_dart8.jpg

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Charlie A 10-12-2017 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 547570)
My ALL TIME favorite LO23

https://image.ibb.co/gcRkMG/that_dart8.jpg

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One owner. Low mileage. :)

Liteweight 10-13-2017 04:00 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/ifbZYw/bill_tanner6.jpg

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Charlie A 10-13-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 547643)

Still has glasspacks hanging under it! COOL pic Daryl.

SSSwede 10-14-2017 01:10 AM

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Witch was a bit unusual, since car is running in class A, indicating picture may be taken in 1970 or later, when exhaust pipes no longer was mandatory by NHRA.
Pic below probably from 1969, when Tanner still raced for Atlanta Dodge dealer Billy Aiken of Lennox Dodge.
Aiken signed Tanner in December of ยด68 and the following year Tanner became NHRA Southeastern Champion.
All according to Car Magazine Article of May 1970.


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