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68hemiss 12-14-2011 01:50 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
If we are talking about the same car - the red, white and gold Barracuda that Mike Booker had - this is the Southland Flyer car that Joe Teuton Jr raced - it was bought from Ed Miller at the Gatornats (years ago - and no this was not Ed's Original car). The car is originally from NC (not S&M) and Roy Hill also raced it years ago.

I have seen the Johnny Rivers paperwork from VanDyke Dodge and I do not believe that is authentic. I have many copies of Dealer paperwork and they look nothing like this. There was a Johnny Rivers that bought a Dart new from White Bear Dodge though.
Mark J

68hemiss 12-14-2011 01:55 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Paul,
There was an article in one of the east coast magazines (possibly Cars Illustrated) that had a road test on the then new 69 1/2 6 BBl Superbee that mentions they got a guy named Marshall Gold to do the test driving and that he spent his spare time rowing the shifter on an SS/B Hemi Dart. I contacted Al Kirchenbaum (who wrote the srticle) and he didn't remember this - possible lead on the Manhatten Speed Shop Dart??
Mark J

Hemi Moose 12-14-2011 04:00 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Here's a couple of shots of the Demented Dart.
http://www.firebirdonline.com/blast_...e_60s_pair.jpg

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...miitems047.jpg

http://www.dragracealberta.com/index...arkracing4.jpg

marfen 12-18-2011 07:01 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Demented dart LO23 and Mr 5 and 50 BO29 for sale at Barrett Jackson 2012. They indicate incorrectly that the dart was the only export car, guess they don't know about the Old Trapper sold new out of Calgary.

Paul Ceasrine 12-18-2011 07:59 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Mark,

Still searching on the Marshall Gold connection.
Al Kirchenbaum was Rockville Centre Dodge Performance Car
manager around mid-1969.

I believe he was the 'care-taker' of the 440/6 'press test car', also.

If there is a connection, Marshall Gold could have been
the driver of the Manhattan Speed Parts Dart, or driver of the
Mutt Brothers Dart (ex S & K Dart), or
did Rockville Center Dodge have a LO23,,,,,,,,????

pc

Hemi Moose 12-18-2011 08:20 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Jack Werst's Mr. 5 & 50 B029 68 Hemi Barracuda.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...nt_3-4_Web.jpg
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...Engine_Web.jpg
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...terior_Web.jpg
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...ar_3-4_Web.jpg

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=443&pop=0

Charlie A 12-18-2011 08:23 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 83852)
Hi my name is Daryl;I am new to this forum,& I'm REALLY hoping someone can help me out with some history of my 1968 original Hemi Dart. I lose it's past from the early 80's back to 1968.I am enclosing some pictures of it when it was purchased from Lou Vignona back in 1985??.There is one picture that shows a decal from the 1977 Bracket Nationals.Maybe someone will regognize it.
This is what I know of the car so far.Lou Vignona said he purchased it from some guy in Mt.Kisco(Cisco??) N.Y in the early 80's.It was in an underground parking lot of some apartment complex.The guy told Lou that it was Charlie Castaldo's Auto. car. I have since found out that it is not Castaldo's car thru talking to one of Charlie's crew members at the time by the name of Charlie Licata.When Lou purhased the car,he had it painted white.This is how Tim Henessey purchased it in 1985.
I have heard some storys about an original Hemi Dart in the N.Y. area that was known as the "two scoop Lido" car.I understand that this Lido guy installed some aftermarket scoop on top of the original scoop.Thus the name.I have spoke with Tim Henessey about this & he did say the original scoop was really messed up so he had to replace it when he restored the car.
If anyone can help me out on this,I sure would appreciate it as I have been searching for info. now for over 3 years,maybe 4.Any little detail may help no matter how small it may be.
Thankyou; Daryl


So 1200+ posts later, are you any closer to the heritage of your Dart?

Paul Ceasrine 12-18-2011 08:43 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Barrett-Jackson,,,,,,

should be ashamed of themselves,,,,,,,,
claiming that the recent 68 Hemi car was the only exported 68' Race Hemi.

Brings back memories of Craig Jackson stating that Ray Allen's
70' LS-6 SS454 Chevelle convertible was undefeated in SS/EA.

No reason to lie,,,,,,or fabricate a story..

Hemi Moose 12-18-2011 09:37 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
What the Demented Dart L023 Hemi Dart looks like today.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...nt_3-4_Web.jpg
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...Engine_Web.jpg
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...terior_Web.jpg
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...ar_3-4_Web.jpg

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=443&pop=0

marfen 12-19-2011 12:34 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Check out the width of those rear hides, that car was tubbed enough to stuff 16" wide tires under there, pretty sure when I saw the car years ago there was rear frame relocation.


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