Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 234488)

Oh and a few other things. In the last three years they have doubled the price on chassis certification, raised the price on membership and liscenses, and raised entry fees, all in the worst economy in my lifetime.

Originally Posted by Tony Curcio (Post 235097)

There is no way this can ever turn out well for racers if the IRS rules that NHRA is not eligible to be a non-profit.

At best, NHRA would be forced to begin paying tax on funds from operations, which will increase costs by 35%, and those costs will be passed along to YOU. How is that good?

And that's only a best-case scenario. The IRS can impute back taxes for as far back as the statute of limitations allows, which could be 7 or even 10 years in some cases. Plus penalties and interest. The organization would either have to shut down, sell out, or seek new capital from a public offering, if the market will support it. None of these are good choices.

A publicly traded entity must, by law, maximize profit for its shareholders, or face lawsuits. The hard truth is that the national events generate piles of cash from spectator and sponsor revenue. The back-gate from sportsman racing is a small fraction of the total.

A for-profit NHRA may have no choice but reduce or eliminate sportsman racing. Not because it loses money, but because the resources can be used more profitably on professional categories. This would certainly be the case if it was owned by a publicly traded corporation.

Some of you think a sportsman-only, combo-racing organization would be preferable. But I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the quality race tracks that were built in the 1990's could never have been funded if they didn't have the prospect of a cash producing NHRA national event to show the bankers and investors. And say goodbye to sponsorships that underwrite some of the pro-sportsman operations in full.

Worst of all, they might have to close down. And to shut it down would be absolutely criminal. Garlits, Prudhomme, Muldowney, Jenkins, Sox, Nicholson- all NHRA legends- 50+ years of history and tradition could be lost, all because some cranky, short-sighted individual thinks Dallas Gardner and Tom Compton make too much money. You'll wish that was your biggest problem.

Originally Posted by Tony Curcio (Post 235097)

There is no way this can ever turn out well for racers if the IRS rules that NHRA is not eligible to be a non-profit.

At best, NHRA would be forced to begin paying tax on funds from operations, which will increase costs by 35%, and those costs will be passed along to YOU. How is that good?

And that's only a best-case scenario. The IRS can impute back taxes for as far back as the statute of limitations allows, which could be 7 or even 10 years in some cases. Plus penalties and interest. The organization would either have to shut down, sell out, or seek new capital from a public offering, if the market will support it. None of these are good choices.

A publicly traded entity must, by law, maximize profit for its shareholders, or face lawsuits. The hard truth is that the national events generate piles of cash from spectator and sponsor revenue. The back-gate from sportsman racing is a small fraction of the total.

A for-profit NHRA may have no choice but reduce or eliminate sportsman racing. Not because it loses money, but because the resources can be used more profitably on professional categories. This would certainly be the case if it was owned by a publicly traded corporation.

Some of you think a sportsman-only, combo-racing organization would be preferable. But I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the quality race tracks that were built in the 1990's could never have been funded if they didn't have the prospect of a cash producing NHRA national event to show the bankers and investors. And say goodbye to sponsorships that underwrite some of the pro-sportsman operations in full.

Worst of all, they might have to close down. And to shut it down would be absolutely criminal. Garlits, Prudhomme, Muldowney, Jenkins, Sox, Nicholson- all NHRA legends- 50+ years of history and tradition could be lost, all because some cranky, short-sighted individual thinks Dallas Gardner and Tom Compton make too much money. You'll wish that was your biggest problem.

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 235145)

But, how many paying spectators would there be? Sadly, nobody pays to watch us. Look in the stands when the fuel cars are done. Heck, hardly any of them watch Pro Stock. Nobody watches the Alky cars either. Even fewer the index cars, which I understand. :-)

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 235145)

But, how many paying spectators would there be? Sadly, nobody pays to watch us. Look in the stands when the fuel cars are done. Heck, hardly any of them watch Pro Stock. Nobody watches the Alky cars either. Even fewer the index cars, which I understand. :-)

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 235149)

Look at PINKS they filled the stands , You know the difference between sex and rape, salemenship. Nhra has been raping us all these years, but keep selling it to us. We on this site wine all the the time but untill we do something it will never change. Tom