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1347 01-09-2022 09:31 PM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
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Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio (Post 655323)
A spring rule would make the cost of going fast higher. Some people wouldn't care about that but we race a performance base class. More time on the spintron and more cams, lifters, springs, retainers, locks etc to test. But who cares about going fast. Lol

And a roller lifter rule would add more money than the 1800.00 for the tool steel ones. Most who are even having success with shubecks or even tool steel lifters would make the jump to a new roller lifter profile cam. So by the time everyone buys a couple new cams and some bushed lifters , you would be 2 or 3 thousand light in the wallet. What a great idea.

Terry Cain 01-09-2022 11:02 PM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 655334)
And a roller lifter rule would add more money than the 1800.00 for the tool steel ones. Most who are even having success with shubecks or even tool steel lifters would make the jump to a new roller lifter profile cam. So by the time everyone buys a couple new cams and some bushed lifters , you would be 2 or 3 thousand light in the wallet. What a great idea.

3 is a lot better than 8-10 to replace block, crank, cam, lifters, pistons, etc, etc.

pmrphil 01-10-2022 09:55 AM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
If anybody tells you that a bushed lifter won't (or can't) do the same damage with a failure, they're lying. ANY roller lifter, bearing, bushed, whatever, when it fails is going to make an expensive mess.

Barry Polley 01-10-2022 11:25 AM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
NHRA will not consider this enough reason to add a h u g e expenditure to the rest of the classes. Pretty simple.
One post or poll here does not represent the rest of the country as much as some would like to think.

SSDiv6 01-10-2022 07:55 PM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
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Originally Posted by Terry Cain (Post 655340)
3 is a lot better than 8-10 to replace block, crank, cam, lifters, pistons, etc, etc.

There are no bullet proof lifters.
I have seen all brands fail; some more than others.
Too many people believe that just bolting a specialty part is that easy and will solve all their problems. Too many times, it creates more problems.

Todd Hoven 01-10-2022 08:25 PM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Cain (Post 655340)
3 is a lot better than 8-10 to replace block, crank, cam, lifters, pistons, etc, etc.

If you’re blowing up solids now, just think what’s going to happen with rollers. Unless you rev it higher with a cam change, you’re wasting time and money. I read somewhere where you were talking about having the same advantages cars in your class. What class do you run and what fast cars are there in that class, that have roller cams?

john ancona 01-10-2022 08:48 PM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 655380)
If you’re blowing up solids now, just think what’s going to happen with rollers. Unless you rev it higher with a cam change, you’re wasting time and money. I read somewhere where you were talking about having the same advantages cars in your class. What class do you run and what fast cars are there in that class, that have roller cams?

There you go again putting your spin ,if you have, or had a race car everyone knows everything can fail , let the poor guy alone, he like many others are only trying to come up with a solution , you have beet your drum enough , your simple minded idea that one more thing like the lifters will move stock into super stock when for years now many things have been added to make many thing more reliable in stock engines ,of with I am sure you have on your car ! I know you stated you have been against change ,but like I said before if it's such a big deal why have there been so many changes up to this point , any one or more could have sent stock into super stock !

Todd Hoven 01-10-2022 10:18 PM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
So I’m not allowed to respond? Who are you? His spokesman? A guest moderator? Did Ken hire you on? I thought this was a public forum? Let’s shift from him to you?
Do you think roller lifters will help your program? What class do you run? Do the fastest cars in your class run them?


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Originally Posted by john ancona (Post 655382)
There you go again putting your spin ,if you have, or had a race car everyone knows everything can fail , let the poor guy alone, he like many others are only trying to come up with a solution , you have beet your drum enough , your simple minded idea that one more thing like the lifters will move stock into super stock when for years now many things have been added to make many thing more reliable in stock engines ,of with I am sure you have on your car ! I know you stated you have been against change ,but like I said before if it's such a big deal why have there been so many changes up to this point , any one or more could have sent stock into super stock !


john ancona 01-10-2022 11:17 PM

Re: Explain to me again, please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 655389)
So I’m not allowed to respond? Who are you? His spokesman? A guest moderator? Did Ken hire you on? I thought this was a public forum? Let’s shift from him to you?
Do you think roller lifters will help your program? What class do you run? Do the fastest cars in your class run them?

As far as I am concerned feel free to say what ever you like , funny I asked the same question ,who are you to speak for others ,and tell others what to do , as you have been doing on here since 2016 , just so you know where I stand ,no I do not think roller lifters will help my program ,I sold my Camaro BBC stocker to get away from the solid lifters ,I figured my luck was running out running then for fifteen years with out a problem , also I was not the fastest to the contrary I was the slowest ! So being the slowest everybody was faster than me even the cars with roller lifters !


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