Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 

It should probably run pretty good. The 60* V6 has been done before (right Yac?). I don't know what transaxle you would use (125?) and I'm not sure what 4 speed transaxle came in it. It's an OBD1 car so you would probably wind up putting in an aftermarket ECU to tune it but there are some older ones popping up used.
You're off on your weight because NHRA did away with the 17.5 lb. class so you would wind up in BF at 2650 (doubtful) or the new CF at 3115.
I know that there's an older Grand Am running around D1 that's real fast but I think it's a Buick motor.

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It wouldn't be too hard to get one under the index.
Actually it's .430 lift in FWD...Comp has the blanks and can make you one with street and strip lobes @ .430 lift. Original duration is about 196 @ .050.
Now, if you want to go fast, it will take some serious hands on fabrication.
Earlier non-electric T 440 should bolt in.
3 speed 125 requires fabbed mounts and a custom right hand axle shaft. Same 245 mm converter, either way.
Log type manifolds are junk. Real headers will take another serious hands- on effort.
Now you'll end up with a fair amount of torque in a FWD car. The car will need a major
weight re-distribution to make it consistent.
I would seriously think about a slower class V 8 or V6 2 bbl. car, instead of this one.


(PS..it's rated at 155 hp)
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It's sitting in my yard so I was just looking at it. Probably should've done that one instead of the IROC I did.

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Mark, do you think those primaries are long enough?

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Yup.. The length was dictated by the need to get it out the front header well.
The rear was just a match, dimensionally.
I guess it didn't hurt it .It run 1.05 under on the first full pass ;-)

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1986 C10 , 800 Q jet , .430 cam, 190 hp! You guys can finish the equation ;-)

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Definitely COULD qualify as a "Dime Rocket"!
It also goes to show that the people running this"$#1T Show" don't know cars or combos.

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After all of these years I have a “Dime Rocket “?

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If you say so, I'll take your word for it!

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I recently seen a local guy racing a basically all stock 97 camaro with a lt1 auto combo, from what he tells me it has some suspension upgrades which he bought all used and he paid 1500 for the car because a blow head gasket. Not the fastest but consistent, and definitely under 5 grand the only weak point on the car is the rearend he says.

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So he runs under the index with a stock Lt1 camaro?
if so very impressive.

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To be honest I don't recall what he runs, I just no I've seen him at the track quite a few times and thought it's a affordable drag car, and the main thing he has fun with it.

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Sounds like a cheap Sportsman Bracket car to me..(12.0 and slower)

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I would say so

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Being that this is the most recent "Dime Rocket" thread, I would think this is the appropriate place for this information. With the most recent HP adjustments released, something that comes to mind is the 64 mustang 289 210 hp combo. Now with a rating of 188hp, apart from the cost of buying the car itself, I would think this could be built into a pretty good M,N,O car fairly cost effectively. Apart from the somewhat small carb, it has some pretty liberal cylinder head specs compared to other very similar SBF heads, and some pretty good compression capabilities. Just some food for thought.

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I agree that this is now a possibility, Also note that the C5 head (which is a much better head) is legal on that combo.

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Good luck trying to find a decent body to start a build on. If one was to be found would probably be an Az. car. All those up north rusted away decades ago. If one tackled this it would be a 10+ on the cool meter !

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I had a '95 Impala SS years ago (with the LT1 of course) and with a gear, converter, headers, drag radials and a tune it ran a couple tenths under it's index. It was still the stock longblock including the camshaft and had the full exhaust. If I remember correctly, with a bunch of seat time and tweaking, I had that car running mid 12s.

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Good morning Doug and to all,
I'm in the middle classes today and I noticed your reply, I always liked those Ford bodies but what would be the "natural" class weight of that car work out to be?
I have to agree with Joe that finding a suitable body at a somewhat reasonable cost is going to be a little tuff these days. As I remember those cars were pretty "tinny" - meaning light. What does that combination have to weight?
Have a Good Day and a Nice Weekend.

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

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Curious if anyone knows the history of the C5 head being approved for use on a 64 production engine. Many years ago I worked for a Ford rebuilder, only saw C5 heads used on 6 bolt blocks which didn't come out until 65.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

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I know how it happened but had to swear not give out the details...

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I found the nicest low mileage 1982 Camaro, however it has the 2.5 Iron Duke/Turbo200 combination. I think it fits in W/SA. Has anyone ever tried this combination before? Thanks! Dyno

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The car would have to weigh 2896 with driver in it's natural class of N/SA. Add or take away 94 pounds to make M or O.

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That weight would be doable and 65-66 Mustang hardtops are sometimes not too expensive. Lots out there and easy to get parts for.

Since a 64 1/2 Mustang is called a 1965 model maybe that's why the heads are allowed.

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I have always wanted a 4 cylinder Camaro. Twice I thought I had a deal to buy one, but they both fell through. But I don't think 1982 4 cyl. Camaro is in the guide.

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Fits U, V or W/SA. First year of the TB fuel injection.

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The throttle body on it probably isn't much smaller than the one on the 305 and 350 TPI motors.

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Curious as to how much a nice 82' Camaro 4 cylinder costs?

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It won't be the price, it will be the finding one.

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I'd like to see you explain that comment to someone who restores/collects 64 1/2 Mustangs! It would probably be like explaining to a restorer that your AMX or 273 Valiant cane with an Edelbrock intake.

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Might need a few updates here, on this non-racing weekend.

Only thing I've got at the moment is this one.
1984 Riviera , 252 Buick V6 4 bbl for V/SA (15.50 index)
There have been a few cars with this combo..I think Bob Shaw might have tried one.
The engine came in Pontiacs, Buicks, and even Caddys, but the 84 has the biggest cam and carb, and the lowest rating. I think I know how it got that way, but we won't go there ;-)
Can someone tell me why this wouldn't be an easy second under combo?

What else ?

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One of you guys needs to build a turbocharged Solstice....

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How about a 2007 Cobalt SS supercharged with an automatic transmission...

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Mark,
Isn't the '84 Riviera FWD. which would place it in FS and not in V ?

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Yes. I just thought of that, and came back on to correct myself.
The Regal is the only one de-factored to 163. Makes it an R, T, U car.
The full size that makes V is 176 hp..In other words not de-factored like the Regal.
Only 302 FFFords can get reduced, across the boards, I guess.

So, how fast did the Doolittle / Mc Kay , Jewell black car ever go? Seems to me it should go plenty fast.

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That's one on my "to-do" list!
We'll have to get clearance from Mark on this one though. It used to be no FWD dime rockets.

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This is another one on my favorites list!

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At one time, I test drove a used HHR SS with that combo. For what it was, it was pretty impressive though with a bunch of torque steer. I chose something else because the thing was such a bucket of bolts. I'd guess it's heavier than a Cobalt so they should be even better.

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It would be okay for the next year and a half, seeing we're in a 40 year high period of inflation.

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Wasn't Darwin Hardy's blue "Hardy's Hangup" Buick a LeSabre with a 252?
I remember that car being quite fast for its day and a 13hp difference in U/SA would be 260 lbs!