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Bob, out of NHRA rule book....In a sport where records play such a
vital role, every effort is made to maintain their accuracy and
validity. In order to ensure the validity of all new records, a backup
performance of within 1 percent of the new mark is required at the
same event. In the event that two runs exceed the existing record
but are not within 1 percent of each other, the quicker time or faster
speed will be acceptable as the backup for the slower time, which
will stand as the new record...... Hence the slower time 10.23 is the record, plus factor ( should be 10.04). This one is for "Drooze". Still having fun though.

Jeff did indeed tear down but I haven't heard why he was DQed.

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My Bad

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Your not that bad. You may be old but your not that bad! lol Wish you were here, between Diltcher and you, it would be a hoot. Are you two brothers? lol

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Larry, with all due respect I think u should keep the rumors to urself. No one wants to hear crap that isnt true. Maybe Jeff Inter...could tell us. I'm sure he wouldn't go for a record knowing that he was bogus.

And also, I think we're all sick of hearing about the West coast rules and all that BS about bogus combos. Give it a rest, just race.

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no doubt!!!!!!

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He did the tear down. 5 hours later they tell him the throttle body measured wrong. Right part, right part number. He was ready for the tear down. He wanted the record.
He isn't cheating.

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Larry and Patsy,

Have a safe trip home and thanks for the ride.

Bill

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What's the schedule look like today?

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Floyd is correct, and thanks Brad and others for sticking up for me. I am the farthest thing from a cheater. I would never waste all my time, effort and money to try to put one past NHRA. They list four throttle bodies for my car, but only have one dimension, and that is the stock one. I need to prove to them that my part is unaltered, and they came factory with a different spec then they have listed for all four. I am working on that, and hope by Pomona I can provide the proof. Pat said there is a possibility they will let the record stand if I can do that. It was very frustrating that the part was the first one off the car, and the first one inspected. I was completely back together and at my pits when they came rolling up, and said they need to reinspect something. What a waste of a weekend, but it's like trying to fight with the IRS. You won't win even if you are right.

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You should have been running the listed size throttle body and not the larger one until you had it approved first. That's why they list dimensions.

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What are the West Coast Rules?

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Sorry, Jeff for my misinformation. I heard this from what I thought was a reliable source, but I apologize to you for posting just a rumor. I will try to make sure before I put anything else on that it is the truth.

Patsy

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Yep, the Mega Maniac has finally accomplished what Drooze said it would do, from the start. The record will likely settle in at around 10.04 and somewhere around 135/136 mph.

The record is isn't out out reach for a really fast legal A/SA car, since we really don't want horsepower. But it is stout enough to keep the pretenders on the curb watching the parade of real cars go by.

Drooze revenge is now in the record books.

David
The New Hemi Guy

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Jeff
If it's not the size listed you were cheating so trying to get it approved after you were caught is B. S. That is why stock is not stock any longer someone was caught cheating and got it changed after kissing the rear end of the right guy . I guess your problem now is who do you kiss .

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Just a question, since when do you not want Horsepower??

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David, you can thump your chest all you want, but in MHO, you wouldn't know a real car unless it hit you in the *****. The people that made the real cars go fast (Keith included) know that it takes far more work than a BOGUS horsepower rating and stroking a check. ANYONE that chooses to do that can....and MANY can, but will not because they do not want to be a party to nhras' scam with Ford, Chrysler, and now GM. All of the heads up runs since these cars were allowed in Stock Eliminator have been GIFTS from nhra and there is nothing you can say to defend it. Maybe the new cars can make it on their own.....time will tell, but you have a long way to go to earn the respect of the hard working racers that got us to this point.

"Parade of real cars go by".....give me a break.

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I don't know David or Arnold,but Arnold's post is 100% right.Thats a poor post Dave.And this coming from a lowly K/SA racer.

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very well put

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what happend to Skillman, did the motor blow

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Just got a note from Larry Sullivan that Skillman did blow it up and the cleanup is likely to take at least half an hour.

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that makes the second CJ to blow up, same skillman or a different. Wonder if it was the same cause......

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ray

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Its not a big deal.I think they blew up an engine at the Bowling Green Points race.

Its still under factory warranty I believe. lol.

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they must be over 30 minutes to clean up.

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Well we got on the road this morning about 10:30 to head back to Kentucky. It sprinkled on us in the desert and we are trying to outrun the snow that is headed to the Flagstaff area. It is calling for 10 inches tonight thru tomorrow. We are going to try to make it to Albuquerque tonight before we stop. We have already been 325 miles and have another 250 to go.

Congrats to Cooter and Country Dog for winning the Division 4 championship. By Cooter beating Keith Lynch it kept Keith from overtaking our #9 spot in Division 3.

We will have more to say after we get to where we have steady internet.

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The way this race is going right now,you might be home before its over.

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Good job Cooter!

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Jim gallatin just rolled his car thru the lights. he's out of the car and OK!

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They are done for the day.

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They just pulled the plug, next round 9am Monday morning

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Here we go with all the people who assume I was cheating. My part number is listed, and happens to be a larger than stock throttle body. If NHRA says the part is legal, it shouldn't matter what size it is. That is called using things to your advantage, not cheating. I guess nobody has ever looked into the rule book or blueprints to find an advantage. Isn't that what everybody does to find a combination they can make run far enough under the index to be competitive?

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Ed, you can read the post I just made for Mr. Nolongerracing. Then if you still think I am cheating, well that is your problem. NHRA listed the part I was using, but only has the stock dimension listed. I am sure there have never been errors in the rule book before, right? Would anybody in there right mind pay all that money, then go for a teardown and think you were going to get something by NHRA? Not this guy. They are way to thorough for that.

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It looks like with the third round win, Jody Lang is at 700 points, and with a win, Joe Santangelo can get 701. Wow, this is going to be close!

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Patsy, thanks for the apology and I hold nothing against you. I appreciate that you wrote back, and I was aware I would be labeled a cheater by some others. Now I just have to try and clear my name by proving to NHRA that the throttle body listed for my car actually came from the factory at the size they measured. Now the quest to find documentation begins.

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Jeff, to be cheating, you must have bored that throttle body out to at least 100mm, and then cleverly concealed the machine work...........which gave you at least 100 horsepower!!, some people on here are so stupid...funny ,do they even race? or are talking out of their a**..?.Nice job, you're car is running good!!

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Thank God it only took the cost of ONE race car and no injuries to get them to do what we all thought they should do the night before

We are racing to late in the year - rain next week in Pomona


:-) peace

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regardless of what some of these internet racers say, good job on getting your car to run that good! good luck on the info side for tech. let me know if you need any help. charlie can get hold of me or give you my number if you need it.

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Hello Irv,

We have run an awful lot of races, even winning Class in some, without getting horsepower...In fact we won the 2011 Class Performer in Stock Automatic, without many hits. And the ones we did get, were necessary to accomplish my plan. And now we have the A/SA record without getting horsepower.

But I can understand why you are upset... after being hammered on the 6.1 (lots of little hammers and one big hammer at the end.. ), and giving up on the 5.7 (where you were being nibbled to death by guppies), and then gotten hammered again on the 6.4 (two hits in 2 weeks = 200 lbs, ouch!), these Challengers must really give you heartburn by now.

Seems the Ford guys, well most of them, protect the index better than the Mopar guys. Maybe a Ford should be in your future?

As for me, I am looking at the new Camaros... Seems like they just might be fun. And if Chrysler won't/can't put a supercharger on a Drag Pak car, why not look to something that actually can compete with the Fords.

David
The New Hemi Guy

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David, you probably are going to get hp at the end of year average`s, unless someone with your motor goes 1.20 under to get auto hp. Tom

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At what temperature is a track too cold?

When:

It is ok for stock but not for top sportsman, TS got sent back, but we had to run.

It is ok for superstock but not for top dragster half the field did not make a good run.

The announcer warns super racers about dumping at the end of the track so their won't be a loss of life, limb, or equipment.

It could be a predetermined number set by the tire manufactures and the sanctioning bodys.