Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 209737)

Daryl,

Your original question "Original Hemi Dart Information".
It has turned into one of the most informative threads.

On the Finks Used Cars' Super/Gas Dart.
Looks like a mid-70's photo.
Fink's (out of Zainesville, Ohio) picked up many factory
Super/Stock cars from the original owners.
Wonder if that Dart was Mary Ann Foss original 'Go Hummer II".
Zainesville only about an hour away from Bellville, Ohio.
Or possibly, from Dependable Dodge out of Mansfield, Ohio.

Paul

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 585999)

Daryl,

You been able to turn up anything more on the early history of your car
It’s like it was invisible. 😎

CA

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 586003)

Hey Charlie
Absolutely nothing!!!! Still searching daily for photos of it mostly on facebook since lots of people post their pics they have just found in a drawer or something. Even looking in the background of staging lanes and pits etc. Your right. Its like it just isnt out there after 1968 for whatever reason. Prolly got parked due to mechanical destruction or the owner himself just made it invisable from a ugly divorce or he passed or???????? The search continues

liteweight

Originally Posted by Bobdakota (Post 585985)

Yes, I know this is an old post but, in comparing these 2 pistures of Fink dart and Foss dart, both seem to have same decal on drivers vent window. Same car???
Bob

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 586173)

Different cars. The Fink car history is known, Foss car has not been positively ID'ed yet as Daryl stated.

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 586143)

https://i1115.photobucket.com/albums...manMay1985.jpg


And if you look at where the dark blue is on the sides and the roof, it matches where the paint is removed from the car being stripped. Not to mention the now famous quarter panel repair.
And, if you look close enough, you can see a double exposed picture of the r/r wheel opening / quarter panel back to the bumper.

Originally Posted by 68hemiss (Post 586516)

Charlie,
Was Joe Ralph Thompson the original owner of this Dart?
It seems that all of the pictures I have seen of the car are from 1970 when it was running P/S - seems like I have also seen it in M/P. At the US Nationals (or maybe the World Finals ) in 1968 he had the 65 car.
Thanks,
Mark Janaky
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

Originally Posted by Doug Walker (Post 585851)

MCACN car show near the Chicago O'Hare airport
MCACN = Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals
Saturday November 17, 2018

Originally Posted by rhinodaert (Post 586564)

Don Edelsteins car, I have a lot of parts in that car, he needs to quit crashing it...

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 586142)

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...pswqkf5ajn.jpg

I have often wondered about this one. In the stripped down picture of your car it had a silver paint job if I remember correctly. And the dent in front of the rear bumper may have left a spot you might be able to still see. Did we ever identify this one? There was another picture of it parked next to a motel somewhere in this thread.

Originally Posted by Bobdakota (Post 586183)

Does anybody know where this picture was taken? Maybe could ID the Camaro, maybe it’s owner or past owners would know who’s dart it was?It’s a longshot but hey, I’m sure you’ve been down that road before. Good luck on your search! Bob

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 586612)

Hey Bob
the photo of the Dart in the pits beside the Camaro has been looked into by me trying to ID that car. I have searched for more photos of that Camaro also on east coast based racetracks trying to get more info. I think this was at New York National speedway but cant confirm.
the photo of the stripped down Dart is definitely my car during the early 80's when Lou Vignognia owned it. He commissioned Paul Pittman to paint it white. I contacted Paul several years ago and he found these photos of it and sent them to me.

liteweight

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 586524)

Yes he was. Number 43 on original owners list. Gene Graham was usually driving it

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 586633)

I thought we already debunked this?

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...13002&page=140

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 586524)

Yes he was. Number 43 on original owners list. Gene Graham was usually driving it

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 586649)

Certain I am missing something here. What does that link have to do with the JRT. Dart I was referring to???

Old man here is missing the connection.

I have messaged JRT’s daughter and invited her over to the topic for clarification.

Originally Posted by 68hemiss (Post 586653)

From what I know no original owners list has showed up. I do have a Chrysler list of the supposed first 50 Darts & Barracudas in no particular order - no VINs. I am not trying to be rude but if you are referring to Paul Ceserine's list, it is not complete nor 100% correct.

The reason I ask about the JRT Dart is there are a few cars that we assume people were the original owners of but when you actually talk to these owners - sometimes you find out differently.

Another car that I wonder about is the Charlie Lendrum Dart - I also have never see a picture of this car before 1970 - the cars is typically running P/S. Was he actually the original owner?

Originally Posted by red hemi racer (Post 586926)

Finally found the discussion, sorry I have been "tech" challenged. Thanks to Charlie A for giving me directions.
Joe Ralph Thompson was the original owner of the Dodge Dart. It was picked up at the Factory in Detroit. When it came off the assembly line, my father had it taken to the "dipping vat" which was an acid dip to remove some of the metal and WEIGHT. In that day and time weight was an issue. For those who want to know, Joe Ralph Thompson was the original owner of the Dodge Demon as well, it was taken to a guy in the Chicago area that was a "hippey in that day an age as he wore a goatee and he painted his face on the truck of the car, sorta his signature. Of course if any of you out there knew may father and mother you know it didn't last long on the car, he removed it. Great a paint job. The reason for the special paint was it was lighter by about 100 or so pounds.

Originally Posted by red hemi racer (Post 586926)

Finally found the discussion, sorry I have been "tech" challenged. Thanks to Charlie A for giving me directions.
Joe Ralph Thompson was the original owner of the Dodge Dart. It was picked up at the Factory in Detroit. When it came off the assembly line, my father had it taken to the "dipping vat" which was an acid dip to remove some of the metal and WEIGHT. In that day and time weight was an issue. For those who want to know, Joe Ralph Thompson was the original owner of the Dodge Demon as well, it was taken to a guy in the Chicago area that was a "hippey in that day an age as he wore a goatee and he painted his face on the truck of the car, sorta his signature. Of course if any of you out there knew may father and mother you know it didn't last long on the car, he removed it. Great a paint job. The reason for the special paint was it was lighter by about 100 or so pounds.

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 588443)

Not sure if this one has been posted:


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/46...0a339cea09.jpg

Originally Posted by Bobdakota (Post 586568)

Jim,
Do you know who’s car Edelstein’s car was originally?
Thanks ,
Bob

Originally Posted by marfen (Post 588735)

Although Albert's name is on the door I believe that's Dick Panter driving that race...sadly Dick passed away earlier this year. For those who are interested in seeing some of the Old Trappers at least two are confirmed to appear at the Edmonton Mopar show happening July 28 at the dragstrip. Who knows maybe all four may be there. The 67 GTX and one of the 70 Hemi Cudas are coming for sure.

Originally Posted by marfen (Post 594628)

Well I got to meet and chat with Albert Branham , one of the 2 pilots, for the Old Trappers. Great fellow and I'm sure he was thrilled to see 3 of his former rides all together. When asked which one of the four hemi cars was his favorite to race he indicated the 68 (dart).