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Billy Nees 03-30-2009 11:42 AM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
Terry, don't muddy the water by bringing up the indexes. I'll take your answer to mean, yes we need to increase the percentage of the instant hit.

X-TECH MAN 03-30-2009 12:13 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 112295)
Terry, don't muddy the water by bringing up the indexes. I'll take your answer to mean, yes we need to increase the percentage of the instant hit.

Billy....Yes, the instant hit needs to be increased (min 5%) but look at the indexes also. Im not trying to muddy the waters here. Its insane for any class car to run under so much (1.15 to 1.4 +) to begin with. Its just that everyone has become used to that much under the current soft indexes. I know the argument is some cannot aford to spend that much on thier combo and still run stock eliminator but in reality its not that hard to run .5-.6 under the current indexes the way the rules are today. If the indexes were lowered then make the trigger around .6 under.

Billy Nees 03-30-2009 01:38 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
Terry, I have no problem with putting the indexes back to where they were in the 80s (.2?) and going from there but all of the triggers must move at least that much too.

X-TECH MAN 03-30-2009 02:17 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 112317)
Terry, I have no problem with putting the indexes back to where they were in the 80s (.2?) and going from there but all of the triggers must move at least that much too.

I agree.

RockyJ 03-30-2009 03:24 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
I just had a really wierd thought, not meant to be funny. Outside of the ahfs debate
but about our performance class. Use the ahfs however you fellows or nhra decides to
calculate it. But someone go out and find a sponsor for people who want to pick
good combos or just test the limits of their engine. If you go farther than 1.30 under at
a national event and pass teardown ,then you get $1000 from the sponsor for your
trouble plus some horsepower. At least you get something positive from working hard
or spending money. As it is now all one gets is HP and win one round !!
I may be all wet , but i bet a sponsor could be found. ??

Don Himes 03-30-2009 03:36 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
I've been watching the Lucas page on NHRA.com and still can't find Mr. Shaw being hit with the "automatic" 6 h.p. from qualifying at Belle Rose. Maybe he's getting a "pass" on that one! Now about the AHFS: no amount of h.p. hit is going to make the system fast enough, but we can make it faster than it is now. How about; 1.150 to 1.199 gets 1.25% - should be torn down
1.200 to 1.299 gets 2.5% - should be torn down
1.300 to 1.399 gets 5% (Tear down manditory)
1.400 or faster gets 10% (Tear down manditory)
that should speed it along a little!

Billy Nees 03-30-2009 03:58 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
Woah, Don, have you been mixing your meds with alcohol again?

Ed Fernandez 03-30-2009 04:39 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 112339)
Woah, Don, have you been mixing your meds with alcohol again?

Billy;
He's making sense.Maybe we should be doing what he's doing.Couldn't hurt.

Ed

X-TECH MAN 03-30-2009 04:57 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Himes (Post 112335)
I've been watching the Lucas page on NHRA.com and still can't find Mr. Shaw being hit with the "automatic" 6 h.p. from qualifying at Belle Rose. Maybe he's getting a "pass" on that one! Now about the AHFS: no amount of h.p. hit is going to make the system fast enough, but we can make it faster than it is now. How about; 1.150 to 1.199 gets 1.25% - should be torn down
1.200 to 1.299 gets 2.5% - should be torn down
1.300 to 1.399 gets 5% (Tear down manditory)
1.400 or faster gets 10% (Tear down manditory)
that should speed it along a little!

Looks good.....if the indexes are not lowered. Maybe start at 1.0 under and work from there. All should have a manditory tear down though before adding HP to a combo.

Michael Beard 03-30-2009 06:58 PM

Re: We need a new "instant" trigger!
 
I agree.

Actually, Terry, if you think about it, if everybody gets factored properly, you won't have to move the indexes! ;)


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