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Mark Yacavone 10-21-2020 06:51 PM

Re: What Stock rules would you change?
 
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Originally Posted by 4284spd (Post 626160)
Ban auto trans! There boring!

I know you're being facetious here, but I'm not .
Pay out for stick shift win should pay a percentage more (30 ? 40? , 100% more ?)
Also no automatic upshift unless the TRANSMISSION was built that way and you're controlling it with the OEM computer.

Angelo DiTocco 10-22-2020 08:56 AM

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I'd like to see the belts / harness rule go to 3 yrs (at least) because it would match the chassis certification time span. It would just make things a little easier to track - especially for those who have more than one race car.

junior barns 10-22-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato (Post 626287)
There should not be any heads up runs between fuel injected cars and carb cars. and a way to stop the sand baggers make a rule to where if you have a heads up run you cant go faster then one tenth of what you qualifyed at. and yes they should change the seat belt rule to five years.

I feel you Sammy but I don't think it's has anything to do with fuel injected but more to do with the SOFT hp ratings handed out by NHRA. I also never understood why so much discrepancy between model to model or auto to manual. What would happen if NHRA handed out a 30 or 40 hp reduction on all carb cars? I would bet that would even things up! FIVE YEAR SEAT BELT RULE please!!!!!

Dan Fahey 10-22-2020 10:12 PM

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Change Roll Bar Rule from M/S up
To Roll Bars mandatory if car runs 11.49 or better.
Make it the same as for brackets cars.
You would see a better spread of cars in K, L and M
Lighter car easier on parts.
May get a few bracket racers converting to Stock.

Dave Noll 10-23-2020 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GTOMayhem (Post 626165)
And more weight breaks in between the other FWD classes.
Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 626111)
Yes. If NHRA was truly interested in entry level car, there needs to be a FWD class in between 19 lbs. and 25 lbs. !
Also , see my post on X/ Stock.


http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=74658


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Originally Posted by junior barns (Post 626318)
but I don't think it's has anything to do with fuel injected but more to do with the SOFT hp ratings handed out by NHRA.


Prior to 2004 the front wheel stock classes were from A - H and Sticks & Auto's were separated like the Rear drive classes. In 04 NHRA pared down the classes from A - E and combined the trannies (no pun intended), giving the sticks a 100 lb penalty. Not sure when they did away w/that penalty.

Why did they pare it down to begin with? I wasn't watching the front drivers then.

What I've seen with the ratings is firstly they're set by the factories. With the exception of the 2bbl 302 FFFords in "U" , aren't the rest set by the AHFS?

Todd Hoven 10-23-2020 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DYER (Post 601652)
roller lifters for all engines no more broke lifters or worn out camshafts less engine blow ups

Right because roller lifters never break. Lol

Paul Precht 10-23-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 626367)
Right because roller lifters never break. Lol

Roller lifters break of course but they'll be less abused with the average stocker having .400-.500" lift as opposed to the .800" in a super stocker. Starting a new engine without the dreaded cam break in fear and changing valve springs on the engine would be nice.

Bill Grubbs 10-23-2020 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 626367)
Right because roller lifters never break. Lol

Been there done that (Dallas National) last weekend. Thankfully Brenda caught it almost immediately...I happened at engine startup at the scales. You are fooling yourself if you think there is less breakage/cost with roller lifters. When the do go bad...they go really bad.

Jon Sarrett 10-23-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by junior barns (Post 626318)
I feel you Sammy but I don't think it's has anything to do with fuel injected but more to do with the SOFT hp ratings handed out by NHRA. I also never understood why so much discrepancy between model to model or auto to manual. What would happen if NHRA handed out a 30 or 40 hp reduction on all carb cars? I would bet that would even things up! FIVE YEAR SEAT BELT RULE please!!!!!

I run an FI combo that has been beat to death. It actually needs to be reviewed and lowered a bit to me somewhat competitive again without spending 30k on an engine. I know which car(s) you're referring to and I totally agree but please refrain from lumping all FI cars into the 'soft' HP ratings category.

e vassar 10-23-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 602616)
Claimers!

Hell yes!...now I can walk up and buy the engine out of any stocker for 10K .
This would certainly make at least a few racers think twice about spending 25K for a engine,and reduce costs for all of us . Might take me a couple weeks to heal up from the arse kicking I most likely will get!


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