Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 291614)

Well I know one reason why there are not too many spectators watching stock when they run early in the morning here in Las Vegas. This morning they would not let spectators into the track until 9:30. There was a family who had driven here to watch stock and super stock only and by the time they let them in, stock had made both of their runs for today and so had super stock. Evidently Division 7 or this race track in particular just doesn't care! They also changed the order that we were running from the time it was announced and changed it to where stock almost ran back to back with only super stock in between. If you run both stock and super stock, it was really a busy hour and a half, and then nothing til last thing tonight.


Well I am about ready for a nap, so I can stay up long enough to race tonight.

Originally Posted by mcink (Post 291938)

My son and I were at the track Saturday at 815 am, and they certainly welcomed us at that time. We saw some of the Stockers make passes on that round. I assume this family parked in the lot to the west of the pit entrance. We were the 8th car from the gate, so not many spectators made it there much earlier. The ticket booth was already open and selling tickets at this time, so I do not know what this families problem was...

We used the free Saturday tickets (TAD driver) Duane Shields was giving out at his Short Line Express convenience stores, that are located throughout Las Vegas.

I took lots of photos, and will start posting those tonight after work. I did not have internet and computer access in Vegas, like I do at home in South Dakota.

Originally Posted by JHeath (Post 291886)

Jeff, to be cheating, you must have bored that throttle body out to at least 100mm, and then cleverly concealed the machine work...........which gave you at least 100 horsepower!!, some people on here are so stupid...funny ,do they even race? or are talking out of their a**..?.Nice job, you're car is running good!!

Originally Posted by partsbob67 (Post 291893)

regardless of what some of these internet racers say, good job on getting your car to run that good! good luck on the info side for tech. let me know if you need any help. charlie can get hold of me or give you my number if you need it.

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 291890)

Thank God it only took the cost of ONE race car and no injuries to get them to do what we all thought they should do the night before

We are racing to late in the year - rain next week in Pomona


:-) peace

Originally Posted by Arnold Greene (Post 291783)

David, you can thump your chest all you want, but in MHO, you wouldn't know a real car unless it hit you in the *****. The people that made the real cars go fast (Keith included) know that it takes far more work than a BOGUS horsepower rating and stroking a check. ANYONE that chooses to do that can....and MANY can, but will not because they do not want to be a party to nhras' scam with Ford, Chrysler, and now GM. All of the heads up runs since these cars were allowed in Stock Eliminator have been GIFTS from nhra and there is nothing you can say to defend it. Maybe the new cars can make it on their own.....time will tell, but you have a long way to go to earn the respect of the hard working racers that got us to this point.

"Parade of real cars go by".....give me a break.

Originally Posted by Arnold Greene (Post 291783)

David, you can thump your chest all you want, but in MHO, you wouldn't know a real car unless it hit you in the *****. The people that made the real cars go fast (Keith included) know that it takes far more work than a BOGUS horsepower rating and stroking a check. ANYONE that chooses to do that can....and MANY can, but will not because they do not want to be a party to nhras' scam with Ford, Chrysler, and now GM. All of the heads up runs since these cars were allowed in Stock Eliminator have been GIFTS from nhra and there is nothing you can say to defend it. Maybe the new cars can make it on their own.....time will tell, but you have a long way to go to earn the respect of the hard working racers that got us to this point.

"Parade of real cars go by".....give me a break.

Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 291991)

Post like this are ugly and uncalled for,David and his son invested their time and hard earned money to build a legal stocker by nhra rules just like many racers do.Congrats on a great year and negative people like MR.GREENE should give us all a break.

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 291999)

Arnold knows more about stockers than the VAST majority of the keyboard jockeys and fat wallets and regardless if you like his opinion he's entitled to it and has certainly earned the right to voice it. Think David handled it already, I would advise giving Mr Greene a break yourself.

Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs (Post 292010)

Back on topic, thanks Larry and Patsy for all the pics and reporting. Thanks for taking us along with you on your long ride.

Originally Posted by jeff teuton (Post 292044)

go cooter!!!!!

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 292039)

I know we are late to the game on the posts on Jeff and his P/SA Mustang.

We have been pretty busy at Vegas fixing our stuff and sorting out new cars!

I do not know how many people are aware that Jeff has been only racing

stock for a couple of years. We have a car that can run the same class and

could contend for that record so we have no reason to go easy on him.

That being said....... I would bet the Family Jewels (Such as still remain)

That there absolutely was NO INTENT for Jeff to deliberately cheat. We

Know the man and believe in his character. He is pretty new to stock and

working very hard to compete and made a" Newbie mistake" by not

measuring the throttle body. My boy helped him tear it down and confirmed

that the body was OEM and NOT modified in any way from stock. Of course

it should get him bounced still, but he will get it right next time and learned a

from the experience. Jeff is a smart guy and will learn from his experience

some more about stock eliminator. I am happy that we have at least a few

new racers in stock to enrich the Gene Pool.

We own about 20 Race Thermoquads and I am guilty of not measuring a lot

of them if they visually are unmodified and throttle blades are stock size. The

only time they are measured is in teardown when Bruce or another tech

measures at it.

So it could have been me that got bounced and I should know better as I

have been doing this a darn long time........I will spend some time in the

off season measuring all of mine.

DON'T LET THE CRITICS GET YOU DOWN....YOU ARE REALLY DOING

WELL WITH YOUR CAR!!!

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 292134)

Well we are sitting at a rest area in Texas where we stopped to avoid running into tornados and hail. As we left Amarillo, there was hail and rain and we turned the weather radio on and found out that the Walmart that we had planned on staying at tonight in Elk City, OK had been hit with 90 mph winds and hail and there are tornado warnings all around. So we stopped at a rest area and Larry went in and found out that they have 2 tornado shelters in there. So I guess I will sleep with my clothes on tonight, just in case. Keith and Tonya Lynch and Paul Dilcher are behind us in about Amarillo. Hopefully they are stopping for the night there.

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 292206)

Willy Buck the steak is 72 oz.

Jeff, I think you will own the record. It sounds to me that NHRA's paper work is not up to date. You have a very good car.

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 292206)

Jeff, I think you will own the record. It sounds to me that NHRA's paper work is not up to date. You have a very good car.

Originally Posted by mopar jeff (Post 292332)

Mike you are probably right, but I am holding on to some hope that they won't totally stick it to me. I don't know if I want to set it again, because the teardown was a pain. Not really worth it, but I wanted to do it once and that might be all I care to do. Thanks.

Jeff