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Nice line of BS you just printed there. What if somebody does not want to race a Supercharged car? Maybe they would want to take their existing street car (of which there are tens of thousands made) and set it up for Stock class.

Sorry, you only get to run one of the purpose built racecars or you can build a clone of a purpose built racecar. Take your perfectly good original engine and drivetrain out, then purchase one of the race engines just so you can race Stock.

Someday in the future this not allowing regular production newer street cars in Stock is going to bite the sanctioning body big time.

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If anyone shows up with a stock engine chances are they aren't going to qualify. This is a performance based class. It takes an extreme amount of dedication to run this and other eliminator classes.

The CJs have NA modulars also for 2010-2012-2013.

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And I've been saying the same thing until I'm blue in the face! If the AMA is the "keeper of the specs", then open up the book to each and every vehicle that the Auto Manufacturers (foreign and domestic) made available to the general public for the last 20 years. You don't need to show any favoritism, you can keep the rules as liberal as you already have, and you just increased the number of competitors in our Eliminator.

Lew

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That would be a fine goal except for the fact that the era when the AMA collected and published all the specifications for the members' offerings was short-lived and contained information that would be subject to high level debate and biased scrutiny, In fact, in its history the organization referred to as the AMA was reorganized several times, redefined several times, renamed several times and dissolved in 1999. Its the subject of a dicey history during all its existence. The real heyday was during WWII when the 654 manufacturers related to the automobile industry banded together to transform into a formidable war-machine manufacturing alliance. (George Romney was a major factor in making that happen.) Even with AMA specs, NHRA allowed Hydromatic transmissions behind fuel injected sedan deliveries, four-speed transmissions behind 2-barrel 283s and "enhanced" camshaft duration specs. The governing bodies are the major source of difficulty. What we may need every so often is a Jubilee, where all the enhancements are eradicated, all standards are re-established and let the chips fall regardless of whether or not individual people feel it is "fair". Fairness and judgment are sometimes fleeting and ethereal, definitely not Webster's definitions and mostly lip-service in Stock eliminator. The best effort that has been done to pacify the desire for fairness is shoe polish. All other efforts has been far less than satisfactory for a group of participants who think they are endowed with rights to be heard and attended to.

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A very well thought out and written comment, Dwight! Thank you!:)

Lew

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All this depened on if as a auto manuf you adjusted (published your own for NHRA) your AMA spec many did!

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X2! The OEM's would consult with racers prior to submiting specs to NHRA.
Just like overlap on the Mopar Big Blocks; if I recall it was like 320 degrees in the spec sheet.

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Spy photo of the new Billy Nees Dime Rocket wood-gasifier and propane powered GMC truck. Think it fits V/SA...

http://www.staginglight.com/images/gasifier.jpg

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Pontiac started all of that. I'll bet engines ran real good with 320* of duration!

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ahhhh yes the picture is coming much clearer now ,,, lets do some research on that combo!!!!!!!! i want documanttion on the i.d of the tubing size ,,,,,,