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Todd! Put a fork in it!
" The only way to argue with a Fool is to bring yourself down to his level!".

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More heads up racing bigger class count for national events

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This is the black and white of it so to speak . You guys built cars for IHRA now its gone so you have two choices really . ( A ) Go bracket race your pure stock or crate motor car or ( B ) build a car that will run on an existing platform . Why do you want to race with NHRA that bad anyhow ? You built an IHRA only combo to begin with when you could have built a car to race BOTH sanctioning bodies . Now to address affordability thats not even a good argument because there are COUNTLESS soft combos to build to run that could EASILY run .6 to .8 under that would be under $20,000 maybe even 15,000. I bought my car for less than the cost to build the baddest stocker motor you can probably build and it was an EASY .9 under combo with the fast tune up in it so I wish the crate motor and pure stock guy would quit the EASY TO GET INTO , or INEXPENSIVE ALTERNATIVE crap statements . You want to run NHRA stock or Super Stock and can't afford it or don't want to afford it do what I did pick up a second job spend the money and build or buy a car that is a good combo for the class and quit whining that you want to come " play " with us with your crate motor and street car combos its irritating that this is even a debate . I want to be in a band but I only play the triangle. I am not down on Broadway begging the bands in the Honky Tonks to add a triangle player in the mix because I can't sing or play a guitar or drums! I don't have a person agenda against these cars per say I am a full hearted believer in do what you like but don't cram your interest down the throats of people or organizations that don't want them. I will admit YEARS ago I thought about a crate motor car might be a good idea but then again I thought at one time of voting Democrat we all have our Low points in life ( I don't care who you are that was funny ) lol

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How would the rule change create a larger car count?

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This back and forth is one thing, but comparing a crate motor guy with a Democrat is offensive Tommy! Crate motor or not, nobody deserves to be called a Democrat!


Roflmao!!!

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Just more cars in the weight break class. More chance for heads up. More cars for class eliminations

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Agreed. I advocated for this (or variations) for years, but every time people suddenly became more interested in protecting their small pond than facing the possibility of more heads-up runs.

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This is the funniest post that I have read, on this topic, in the entire thread.

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And I for one am here for class eliminations.

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TP, can you do Cow Bell? It needs more Cow Bell ! Great post btw...

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Love some cow bell ! and remember don't fear the reaper lol

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We need a "Like" button on this forum. :)

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To the people that are thinking this is a good thing please remember. Crate or not these were class racers that have been hung out to dry. Many of these individuals will not build another combination for the money or just because they are scared to be hung out by NHRA. They will find another way to race and will not be back. So everyone have a good chuckle and raz the IHRA guys but be very careful what is around the corner. Just a thought

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I feel bad for these guys. I ran IHRA Modified for years and got dropped like a hot potato. My combo did not fit well with any other affordable class, had to start over.

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Hey Ken, can we just kill this thread? I think the dead horse has beaten and is now unrecognizable.

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Yeah but then the only thing left is for everyone to work on their cars. It's just so much easier to cry on the internet (I'm here too).

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WOW Bill Nees is going to have a cow about this..

D

In a history-making decision made at the request of the teams, NHRA will allow Pro Stock racers to run any currently approved engine combination in any currently approved body, regardless of the manufacturer, during the 2018 NHRA Mello Yello Drag Racing Series season.

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I doubt it Dan. NHRA is just trying to figure out what to do with a handful of wealthy team owners who would sue the NHRA if the NHRA did away with their dying eliminator. Maybe YOU should try suing the IHRA for doing away with YOUR eliminator.

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lmao!!!'

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Billy that is your job !
You are the one with all the leftover money from building Dime Racers..!

Go get them...show IHRA and NHRA your passion !!

D

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Dan, if you took all of your time spent on the internet and spent half the time working and the other half wrenching you'd have a 1.20 under car in no time.

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If you can put a Chevy engine in your Mustang Pro Stock, I don't think Crate motors and Pure Stocks are too far out of align for Stock......just my thoughts.

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What makes you think I am idle !!??????

I have been restoring my 1969 Impala for last 20 years. Owned since 1974.
Frame off Chassis, powder coated, rewelded and reinforced for Stock.
Putting it back together and just got painted.
Have a Budd Rowe Engine, needs roll bar, interior, lots of little parts.

If I go NHRA Stock Racing it will be this car.
A natural L car, ran it as M/SA car, plan to move up to K/SA.

Have some unanswered questions.
Best auto and converter, headers, mufflers, Seats, harnesses.
Needs mufflers for the neighborhood.
Has 5.13 and new beefed up Eaton Posi.
350/280/ Refactored to 275.

It is for sale if someone wants to finish it.

D

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Cough Cough...!

Crate Motor Pro Stock ??

Means Crate Motor Pure Stock is not too far away :D

D

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Dan, I can only assume from this last comment that you've been dipping into the medicinal marijuana again.
My passion shows in the 7(that's seven) NHRA legal Stock Eliminator cars that are in different states of running condition that are in and around my garage.
I am however, not restoring my cars or trying to race semi-collectables as Pure Stockers because I don't want to ruin my investment.
Why don't you just come out of the closet and let us all know why you really are pushing Pure Stock for NHRA?
My stuff is all good junk and I'm OK with that.
Just FYI, I wouldn't cut up your Impala SS either but there's still plenty of Caprices out there that I would cut up.

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Why are you so jealous of me ?

D

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FYI if it takes you 20 years to build a car, You're idle.

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I realize you didn't put an lol at the end, but this was a joke right?

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D is hallucinating again. LOL

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I think this thread may have jumped the shark along the way but I thought I’d weigh in anyway.

Sealed crate engines have been proposed to NHRA several times recently for inclusion in Super Stock. There was some interest but it came down to how to accurately rate them. It needs to be low enough the cars can qualify at national events but it would be unfair to rate them so low that they can run to the top of the qualifying sheet. This is where it got hung up.

Personally I think a sealed class for SS/GT would be a good thing. Ford and Chevy both have sealed engines along with the electronics to run them. Dodge might as well but I haven’t checked, if they don’t it’d be easy enough to do. It is very cost effective and reliable at ~$8k for engine and controller with most racers getting hundreds of runs without issues. Plus the aftermarket support for these engine platforms (Coyote&LS) is huge so putting it in most popular platforms would be fairly straight forward and maybe you get some new contingency sponsors. This has worked well for NMRA and NMCA racers in a heads-up format and have no doubt it would work in a SS format as well.

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Not really what this thread is about. This is about NHRA adopting the now defunct IHRA only classes. Pure Stock GT Stock and Crate motor Stock. No one has brought up the SS production classes from IHRA yet.

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I would consider a heads up SS/GT sealed deal. Those things look like a blast.

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NHRA did not appear to have any such hangups with the factory cars. My 5.9L DragPak had more cam, more compression, aluminum heads, and a 1000cfm throttle body, yet was rated 50HP less than my 360 Magnum crate motor.

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[QUOTE=Dan Fahey;550968]Billy;
Didn’t say anyone bashed you!
Just the opposite..in fact you just described me too :D:
You are sweet gentle person who would never offend even a mouse!:eek:

Bob Bender...!
I hope Billy Nees Nickel Stocker kicks every $100,000 FS Stocker out there!
He has an advantage because his car is so slow it’s shawdow falls asleeps at the line!
Then latches on the faster car to catch up!

From an earlier Challenge..I bet Billy or you Bob or any other Stocker Racer $10 they cannot beat my Pure Stocker!

Pure Stock Still Rules!
Just like Billy Nees cars.....it is affordable!

Now where was that other conversation on CR where Stock Racers were complaining that they do not like running Bracket Racing because of their sensitive engines?:confused:

D[/QUOT


I will take that bet !!!

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really ??

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[QUOTE=Bob Bender;551150]Bob you're not going to be able to collect unless you go to one of the combo races.

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Cooter, we can just go to Cecil County. No big deal.

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"Sealed Engines" are the laughing stock of the aftermarket industry. There's an entire segment of the industry that makes the necessary components to keep the engine looking "sealed" to even the trained eye. All the while they're fully blueprinted with well disguised expensive bogus parts.

That crap is for tracks and sanctioning bodies too cheap and too lazy to have real tech personnel and procedures.


We all heard that line of garbage a decade or so back, how "sealed crate motors" were going to save grass roots circle track racing. Yeah, right. Look how that worked out for them.

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No family took priority! Starting and growing a business.
Got things done when there was time and money.
Other issues such as unreliable Restorers not competing tasks.
Having to find another and moving the car.
Not having a place to work on it.

Why be disparaging?
D

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Excuses excuses. Blame your it on body shop. No place to work on car
I will race you for $10. Billy and Bob could care less about your challenge
I applied to race you But You No Better cause you ain’t showing
Blah blah blah. Woooooooo
I’m Delusional Dan. All I want for Xmas is a Miracle of acceptance opinions I force upon others
You should get another hobby other than pissing in everybody’s Cheerios
Put your stuff for sale. Back to the soccer league for you