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The heads were very simple then
Only ported 1 inch down from seat
1/4 inch intake port match
Any chamber mods except welding
Stock valve stem dia
Cast intakes no external mods not even painting
Carb not mods only removing choke blade
Roll cage could not go forward of firewall

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The Brodix spec head is cnc'd 1\2 in. or more into the intake port from the factory. The exhaust is untouched. Most cars already have the roll cage in front of the firewall.

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Some food for thought with the 150 lb weight break for autos-

Randy has suggested making the driver use the clutch pedal to shift gears in the man trans (and I think it is a good idea) and only allowing a single disk clutch. Imo a good liteweight 3 speed automatic could probably run as fast as the clutch car in that set up, probably quicker in the eigth mile without the weight break....and I would expect , at least in the beginning, some of these races will be held at eigth mile only venues.

Also, the people that choose to run the automatic will probably have 2 complete liteweight trans @ $4000 each and a pile of converters at $800 each.....the investment will be too high for many people to make the switch to a manual trans, and if an auto trans and converter company ends up sponsoring the class well......

Maybe 50 lbs reduction for a glide would be a good start. But I think the focus should be on making the class unique- drivers using the clutch pedal, and higher rpm small blocks.

Automatics can race anywhere, anytime. Make the Super Modifieds a unique place for manual trans cars.

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I think the class would work very well today. Heads up drag racing is alive and okay-look at the ADRL, the 10.5 stuff, drag radial 275, and all of the Pro Modified associations and events. But consider this-

When the 'fast street car' stuff really got legs in the mid 1990's the main attractions were 'heads up racing' and almost anyone could fford to do it.

10 years ago, at least in the south east, the 'automatic/powerglide Pro Mods' caught on big. Most of these cars were Top Sportsman cars, they were a notch or two below the pro Mod cars.

IMO this series caught on largely because the powerglide could only handle so much power-it made fast heads up racing affordable for lots of people. The glide was the buffer so the budget guy could race with the big money guy.

Fast forward to about 3 years ago- Lenco and others started building powerglide parts that will take 3000 plus HP, and the fields have gotten smaller around here-because now the 80K engines can be used and not many folks can really afford that-or the maintenence that comes with throwing the kitchen sink into the mix.

The 'Fast Street Car' thing is still pretty strong, but not many people can afford to do it now compared to 10 years ago. A high school friend of mine got into the street car thing-10.5 outlaw-in the beginning. He had a very modest budget and even built the car (his first) himself. Now he can't even qualify and told me how he walked into a competitors trailer a few years ago and the guy had 3 600 inch Fords in the trailer and one on the car.

The thing about this Super Modified deal is that with some strategic rules in place the class could be affordable for a lot of people. Put it in the hands of the drivers and the tuners, not the mega bucks guy. The $500 head claimer thing will keep things from getting out of control better than probably anything else imo.

As for the suspension set ups-

Someone, I think SSDIV6, mentioned that the HP for a 358 with the Brodix spec head without all the dry sump/crank trigger etc stuff would probably make around 650 HP, a stock type suspension can handle that. Look at Anthony B's black '69 AA/SA 427 Camaro with slapper bars, for ex.

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I agree a stock suspension today can handle 650 HP. I don't think that alone is enough cars to bring in a full field. I do know the $500 spec head exchange is a start, but I have a ladder bar 67, that LA Automotive built for me, and others probably have 4 link cars they want in the mix. No one will build a car for this specific non-existent class, so we have to incorporate ideas to let enough in to start. Maybe a 50lb. or 100 lb. for completeley stock chassis with slapper bars. Come on guys, ideas please. And some of you have great ideas now, but we all need to face the fact we will never all, agree with all. I do know more people lined up locally against the fence to see low 7 second, and high 5 second runs here then pro mods drew at other local tracks. That's 1\8th mind you.

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And also, we could incorporate a draw from the hat each day to see who gets P&G'd. And after the finals, from the runner up on down to the non qualifiers, all numbers go in a hat, and the winner draws a car number out, and that's who exchanges heads. Just a thought. That way the guy that wins always exchanges, but any one on down can still post, and claim another racer's heads. What say you.

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Where is this going to run?
Local
NHRA
IHRA
Points meets

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Run wherever, and whenever anyone gets behind it enough to have some pull. Will it happen? Probably not, but it's sure fun discussing.

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Snorkel scoops only, might be a good addition.

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OK, I've heard enough about Brodix heads, do they make them for all motors, Mopar, Amc, Ford,etc.?

Absolutely NO auto's; 4 speeds only, cast heads, alum. intake, holley or equivilant 750cfm, any compression, 750 lift cam max, aftermarket steel rods, roller rockers, stainless stock size valves (uniform throughout models), Caltrac's or slapper bars with custom leaf springs and either 9" or 10" w tires.

No FI, no 4 links or ladders and cars should be 1963 to 1969 (Corvettes up to 1969 can be used).

Please note: this is not an idea for introducing drag racing to 18 yo's, it's a renewal of a great class that was fun to watch, hear, and race.

That's my bias opinion.

JimR