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Don Kennedy 01-05-2020 11:25 PM
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by oldskool (Post 605561)
So that was not a GT car ?
No Bales ran a 455 SD

oldskool 01-06-2020 12:59 AM
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by coolcanman (Post 605571)
... it's called a cam driven distributor made by jesel or MSD originally developed for comp cars with sheet metal intakes...
So, is that part of the crank trigger system. I located that for a Pontiac. Didn't find the dist, except for Chevy.

Hey, sorry to be so ignorant about this. I've seen pics of 'em on Pontiac drag cars. Just have never learned anything about 'em.

Is there a power advantage ? OR ? :confused:

john corcoran jr 01-06-2020 02:25 AM
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
Ok, from what I remember, Bob Bales had a Super Stock 1973 SD455 Firebird back in the pre head porting days. He later fielded a 3rd gen. Firebird with the Super Duty engine. That was the car that had the hatch glass shatter when something that looked like a fire extinguisher exploded in the car in the pits at Pomona. After a hiatus, he debuted the Grand Am which had a Chevy powerplant. Bruce Fulper recently had the 3rd gen. car for sale on this site.
If I do this right, you will see something some of you may recognize. Tibor Kadar won Division 7 with this car a couple of years ago. He bought it from Stacy McCarty. The car started out as a body in white. Since I bought it, it has new paint, carpet, chromoly cage, Goodyear radials, and swapped out the 6x headed 400 for an SD455. God willing, the car will be in Norwalk to start the season. If things go really well I will drag out the T/A stocker too.
Ok no photo tonight. Will try again in the morning.

oldskool 01-06-2020 03:40 AM
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by john corcoran jr (Post 605581)
Ok, from what I remember, Bob Bales had a Super Stock 1973 SD455 Firebird back in the pre head porting days. He later fielded a 3rd gen. Firebird with the Super Duty engine. That was the car that had the hatch glass shatter when something that looked like a fire extinguisher exploded in the car in the pits at Pomona. After a hiatus, he debuted the Grand Am which had a Chevy powerplant. Bruce Fulper recently had the 3rd gen. car for sale on this site.
If I do this right, you will see something some of you may recognize. Tibor Kadar won Division 7 with this car a couple of years ago. He bought it from Stacy McCarty. The car started out as a body in white. Since I bought it, it has new paint, carpet, chromoly cage, Goodyear radials, and swapped out the 6x headed 400 for an SD455. God willing, the car will be in Norwalk to start the season. If things go really well I will drag out the T/A stocker too.
Ok no photo tonight. Will try again in the morning.
Great info ! Thanks !

And good luck with both cars ! :)

oldskool 01-06-2020 03:57 AM
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So, what about the "Macho Poncho", from div 7 ?

A close-up shows Bob Bales on it, right above the rear tire.

BRINK 01-06-2020 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by oldskool (Post 605493)
Last pic I have is from '19 US Nats. He's running SS/MA.

Wonder what you'd have do to his car to run GT, without makin any engine changes ?

I know very little about GT rules.

Can you just tech in as a GT car, even tho you've made no changes ?
No changes are necessary. Just the difference in indexes. SS/MA is 11.85, whereas GT/QA is 11.75.

oldskool 01-06-2020 04:27 PM
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by BRINK (Post 605599)
No changes are necessary. Just the difference in indexes. SS/MA is 11.85, whereas GT/QA is 11.75.
Well, that definitely settles that. I may be the last to know.

I figure that won't be the last thing I learn thru these threads. But, learning is a good thing ! :)

coolcanman 01-06-2020 09:58 PM
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
On the distributor question when u race a pontiac you have to massage chev parts to fit sometimes

oldskool 01-06-2020 10:21 PM
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by coolcanman (Post 605639)
On the distributor question when u race a pontiac you have to massage chev parts to fit sometimes
Yeah, I guessed that when I didn't find a Pontiac dist listed.

oldskool 01-06-2020 10:55 PM
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
I think Norman Warling mentioned that Carroll was gonna try an iron head 428, in his GT car. They have a 10hp less factor than the alum heads. So, has there been any testing done to see how much power difference the alum E-heads make, if any ?

Do ya'll know of any other GT cars that have run an iron head 428 ?


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