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bsa633 01-12-2009 08:05 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
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Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 99587)
Crate MoPar's in NHRA. The Nascar Hemi with the short or long track intake, any carb that will fit under the hood and aluminum heads.
See there is a place for Crate Motor "Bracket Cars" in NHRA Stock Class!

And i thougth you would name a couple of FoMoCo products,,

Fred Holdorf 01-12-2009 05:11 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
This thread got me to thinking. Why is the only small block Ford Crate motor with specs, not on the list of accepted motors? Why are the specs on the 4 that are listed not published for someone to see? I'm not an IHRA member, due to living on the left coast so this is just a question at this time. I don't believe the 4 listed engines have been available, as assembled motors, for quite some time.

Fred

P.S. If IHRA came west I would be intrested in racing in their program.

442OLDS 01-12-2009 09:59 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Holdorf (Post 99742)
This thread got me to thinking. Why is the only small block Ford Crate motor with specs, not on the list of accepted motors? Why are the specs on the 4 that are listed not published for someone to see? I'm not an IHRA member, due to living on the left coast so this is just a question at this time. I don't believe the 4 listed engines have been available, as assembled motors, for quite some time.

Fred

P.S. If IHRA came west I would be intrested in racing in their program.

I hope somebody can answer your question,but sorry I can't help you.One question that I do have about crate motors is that it has been brought up earlier in this thread that the H/CM class is a 9.5 horsepower to weight class.D/SA is also a 9.5 horsepower to weight class.I was just wondering why the index is 12.00 in H/CM and 11.85 in D/SA?How are the factors of these crate motor engines determined and why the difference in the index?

LNorton 01-12-2009 10:00 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
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Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 99784)
why the difference in the index?

The difference in index was to allow for racers to build a crate combo on a budget and be able to run the index.

Ed Fernandez 01-12-2009 11:02 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LNorton (Post 99785)
The difference in index was to allow for racers to build a crate combo on a budget and be able to run the index.

Drag racing affirmative action.

Ed F.

CrateCamaro 01-13-2009 12:12 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 99784)
I hope somebody can answer your question,but sorry I can't help you.One question that I do have about crate motors is that it has been brought up earlier in this thread that the H/CM class is a 9.5 horsepower to weight class.D/SA is also a 9.5 horsepower to weight class.I was just wondering why the index is 12.00 in H/CM and 11.85 in D/SA?How are the factors of these crate motor engines determined and why the difference in the index?


Do you think that a 350/340HP crate motor would run with a 396/325HP? I don't think so.

Bobby Zlatkin 01-13-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
What I have been thinking about this situation (index differences) all along:

When nine or ten of the top 10 qualifiers are crate motor cars and they're accross the board; it's not the HP factors being soft as much as it's the indexes being soft..

Why should the 9.5 lb. stock index and the 9.5 lb. crate motor index not be the same?

And LNorton, your explanation of why they are different is totally out in left field.

LNorton 01-13-2009 11:36 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
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Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin (Post 99839)
And LNorton, your explanation of why they are different is totally out in left field.

Crate motor classes were started as an outlet for racers to be able to build a car and compete in stock on a low budget. So in order to make it easier for newcomers to get under the index and race on Sunday the indexes started off soft. You may think I am out in left field on this one...

When I was running pure stock I was told those indexes were soft and were gonna get hit 2 tenths.

Bobby Zlatkin 01-13-2009 11:53 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Lee,

Any thought of a crate motor class being a budget class is a misconception. How can it cost any less to build a first class crate motor car than a first class regular stocker?

That may have been the original thought but it has progressed far beyond that now.

LNorton 01-13-2009 11:56 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Well, I will tell you all this. Whining about it on a message board really doesn't do anything. If you want changes, you need to be writing letters.


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