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X-TECH MAN 04-28-2011 05:02 PM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 255664)
The real problem is what are we doing about the problem ? if all we do is complain amoug our selves then nothing will happen . i say fax your concerns to the congress every day > i know i have > we must make them act or it is our fault nothing is going right

I do just that but how many on here do the same?

John Kelley 04-28-2011 10:12 PM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 255647)
All this arguing is a waste of time. The REAL problem is how are you going to afford the gas or diesel to get to a race in the future. Its already $4.15 for diesel and $3.92 for gas here in the center of Florida. Its supposed to be $6 a gallon for gas and diesel will be even higher by mid summer. Diesel is the same crap you guys in the north heat your homes with minus the road use taxes. It wont be long until no one will be going to the races and the tracks will go out of business. The only ones showing up to a race will be those who have more money than brains. Do you think the tracks (bracket races, NHRA or IHRA events ) will keep paying the purses when only 5 to 10 cars show up. The cost of eating is rising. Now I know some on here have all the money in the world to pay for your toys but not all of us are in that position. Give this red light deal a rest until some of the other problems with this country are fixed.

Talk about HIJACKING a thread........avoid the topic by crying about fuel prices.

Ed Fernandez 04-28-2011 10:34 PM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
I like it.Let's all storm Wash DC and take over the Capitol.Then we put class racers,fans,
nosey bodies and no names in charge.Oh wait,we have that here now and look how well
we all play together.

X-TECH MAN 04-29-2011 08:17 AM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 255710)
Talk about HIJACKING a thread........avoid the topic by crying about fuel prices.

Just trying to get your minds off this dumb azzed topic!. LOL

Chad Rhodes 04-29-2011 08:37 AM

Re: worst red light debate, again! 'till we get it right...
 
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Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 255348)
At least, my rant makes sense.

only to you and a few others

Bobby Fazio 04-29-2011 09:06 AM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
Enough arguing. Just draft up a petition and tell me where to sign. This rule needs to be changed. People who say they are more concerned with 50 other rules and policies being changed all at once are right in saying so but it's not realistic. I think we should take small steps... starting with this.

Aside from the the first driver not knowing he redlit until the second driver leaves, nothing else would change. That does not change a racer's strategy no matter how you spin it. Fans would grasp the concept after about 2 passes along with some helpful voice-over by Alan R.

goinbroke2 04-29-2011 12:00 PM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
Fans wouldn't even notice a difference.

One car leaves, the second leaves and "HEY, LOOK, A REDLIGHT FOR CAR 1 (or 2)"

I haven't commented yet because this same old crap gets bashed around time after time.
How many freaking pages is it now?

I agree it should be worst red but just because it's right doesn't mean it will be agreed to.

bill dedman 04-29-2011 09:15 PM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
Every time this thing goes around, it gains a little more support. It's now down to the point that the only people who don't think changing to a worse red light are:

1. people who race a car that is in a class that is only going to benefit from it, seldom.... like a AA/SA car, down to maybe C/S... wherein, most of the time they are second to leave.

2. people who don't see that depriving the second car to leave of its chance to red light if the first car has left too soon, is a fairness issue. It would seem to me to be, but they don't agree.

3. people who have been racing under the current system for so long that it is so ingrained in their thinking that it just seems "right" to them, in spite of the facts.

4. people who are dead-set against ANY kind of change, having been "enhanced" to within an inch of their lives.... and they can't stand the thought of "more enhancement." I don't think there are many of these. but they're out there.

5. people who just like to argue, for whatever the reason, and will continue to argue long after the facts have become clear to them. (Are you listening, ED???)

6. people who like to be on the winning side of ANY issue, and who are convinced (and are probably RIGHT) that this is never gonna happen....

I probably missed as many as I got, but it's hard to imagine, with an issue as clear-cut as this one, how ANYBODY could be against a change that would make racing more fair, and wouldn't affect ANYBODY'S driving style.... or give ANYBODY an advantage.

Go figure....

Ed Wright 04-29-2011 09:26 PM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
I'm #6, not #5. Not going to happen, so think this carrying on here is a stupid waste. Already said I don't care either way.

Ed Fernandez 04-29-2011 11:02 PM

Re: worst red light debate, again!
 
Quote Mr Bill:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Every time this thing goes around, it gains a little more support. It's now down to the point that the only people who don't think changing to a worse red light are:

Well I guess you can see what's coming.Bill thinks his illusion of grandeur gains momentum every time he starts it again.I'm figuring he'll have enough believers in about 2075,just in time for the final extermination of the world by the two remaining super powers left on earth,Biafra and Nepal.Of course drag racing will only be in ancient history books,like chariot racing.Bill you're a piece of work.


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