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Billy Nees 10-17-2024 10:57 AM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 703948)
Ya know Dan, it's a funny thing that you put it that way. In a Stocker that can use a Powerglide or a 3-speed, with the 'glide the 60' times are almost irrelevant. They're almost a residual number. The car needs to be set-up to run it's best E.T. and whatever the 60' time is, it is. One of the "funniest" things ever said to me about "tuning" a car was by the late Jim Beattie; "Nees, is there somebody standing on the 60' clock handing out $100 bills? Then don't worry about it".
Now a 3-speed Stocker is a totally different animal. From my experience, what ever you can do to get a 3-speed car to the 330' clock faster will translate to better E.T.s all the way down the track.
This what you mean Frank?
Nothing to do with "wheelies" but 60' to 330', PG vs. 3 speed.

1320racer 10-17-2024 11:16 AM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Again, the OP's question was...

Quote:
Originally Posted by my69396 (Post 703741)
How much will a wheelie affect ET plus or nothi?
NOT whether they are need for your car to hook, NOT whether they are fun, NOT about SLR, NOT about any specific combo or car, NOT about PG vs. 3 speed

Quote:
Originally Posted by my69396 (Post 704224)
How this got started was a conversion about wasted energy going up and not forward.
The FACT remains what you lose or gain in 60 foot directly effects the ET!

If you get to the 60 foot clocks slower and you WILL, breaking the beam with any part of the car behind the front tires no mind the back tires, you WILL run a slower ET!

That statement is indisputable and FACT!

Billy Nees 10-17-2024 11:22 AM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by my69396 (Post 703741)
How much will a wheelie affect ET plus or nothi?
Too broad and vague a question to answer without making personal opinions from personal experiences and assumptions. But I'm quite certain that the moderator is happy with all of the personal responses though.

1320racer 10-17-2024 11:24 AM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 704249)
Too broad and vague a question to answer without making personal opinions from personal experiences and assumptions.
Absolutely NOT!

For the type of cars discussed in this forum, Stock/Super stock and their related bracket car counterparts, meaning small tire cars with stock/bolt on suspensions as well back halved cars, the FACT remains what you lose or gain in 60 foot directly effects the ET!

If you get to the 60 foot clocks slower and you WILL, breaking the beam with any part of the car behind the front tires no mind the back tires, you WILL run a slower ET!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 704249)
I'm quite certain that the moderator is happy with all of the personal responses though.
He was when I spoke to him on Sunday ;)

outlaw 10-17-2024 12:30 PM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
[QUOTE=1320racer;704250]Absolutely NOT!

For the type of cars discussed in this forum, Stock/Super stock and their related bracket car counterparts, meaning small tire cars with stock/bolt on suspensions as well back halved cars, the FACT remains what you lose or gain in 60 foot directly effects the ET!

If you get to the 60 foot clocks slower and you WILL, breaking the beam with any part of the car behind the front tires no mind the back tires, you WILL run a slower ET!

Checked log back on one of the 60’ rear tire days. 1/8 mile track 1st pass 60’ with fronts 1.356 sixty 4.111 330 6.451 1/8 104.5 mph. Second pass 60’ with rears 1.495 sixty 4.109 330 6.450 1/8 104.8 mph. But a hillbilly shouldn’t be in a conversation with someone with an apparent IQ of 1000 so my last comment on this subject.
Terry

1320racer 10-17-2024 12:38 PM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
you shouldn't!

Stan Weiss 10-17-2024 12:40 PM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 704253)
Checked log back on one of the 60? rear tire days. 1/8 mile track 1st pass 60? with fronts 1.356 sixty 4.111 330 6.451 1/8 104.5 mph. Second pass 60? with rears 1.495 sixty 4.109 330 6.450 1/8 104.8 mph. But a hillbilly shouldn?t be in a conversation with someone with an apparent IQ of 1000 so my last comment on this subject.
Terry

Terry,
Thanks. Good information.


Stan

1320racer 10-17-2024 12:41 PM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
bogus info that he thinks is valid

outlaw 10-17-2024 01:26 PM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Ok this is the last one if a car normally sets the front tires down right at the sixty but occasionally sets em down slightly passed now reading from the back tires be slower ET? Your assumption maybe correct for a car with the front tires still in the air when the rears get to the sixty.
Terry

Ellis V Buth 10-17-2024 01:46 PM
Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Has anyone checked the horse for life? We seem to have beaten it to the point of its expiration.

As for the answer to the question from the OP I guess we will never truly know...


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