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thanks for bringing up the daytona...i got scooped on that car as i told the present owner that i had just found it and roughly where it was ...and he went and bought it within 2 weeks.......learned to keep my mouth shut....oh well...he was a body man and he spent about 1000 hours to make it what it is today...cool car
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The BO29 (List of original Barracuda owners) (not in car # order) 1) Ed Miller,,,,,, 'Ed Miller Racing' Syracuse, New York ,,,,,,,'Syracuse Region Plymouth Dealers' SS/B (4-Speed) 2) Bob Gaudreau,,,,,,,, 'Candy Cuda' Bristol, Connecticut,,,,,,, 'New England Plymouth Dealers' SS/B (4-Speed) 3) Phil Cerrone,,,,,'Harris Auto Sales' East Providence, Rhode Island SS/BA (Automatic) 4) John Macey,,,,,,'Heads Up',,,,'Harris Auto Sales' Bridgeport, Connecticut SS/BA (Automatic) 5) Bob Harrop,,,,,,'Psychotic Reaction' Camden, New Jersey SS/B (4-Speed) 6) Jack Werst,,,,,'Mr. 5 & 50' Morrisville, Pennsylvania,,,,,'Philadelphia Region Plymouth Dealers' SS/BA (Automatic) 7) Bill Stiles,,,,,,'Stiles Performance' York, Pennsylvania,,,,,,'York Area Plymouth Dealers' SS/BA (Automatic) 8) Ken Montgomery,,,,,,,'555' Roslyn, Pennsylvania,,,,,,,,,,,,,'Knopf Plymouth' SS/BA (originally an Automatic, but changed to a 4-Speed) 9) James A. Thomas & Milton E. Updyke,,,,,'Thomas & Updyke' Tyronne, Pennsylvania SS/BA (Automatic) 10) Tom Myl,,,,,'Pete Myl Chrysler-Plymouth' Corapolis, Pennsylvania SS/BA (Automatic) 11) Tom Smith,,,,,,'Hemi Power' Clinton, Maryland SS/BA (Automatic) 12) Jim Skarbuck,,,,,'Private Enterprise' Roanoke, Virginia SS/B (4-Speed) 13) Charles Mercer,,,,'Super Fish' Chesapeake, Virginia SS/B (4-Speed) 14) Al Baldwin Pineville, Virginia SS/B (4-Speed) 15) Sox & Martin,,,,,#784 NHRA Burlington, North Carolina SS/B (4-Speed),,,('Lil Boss' on fender, blue-tinted side glass) 16) Sox & Martin (2nd Car) Burlington, North Carolina SS/B (4-Speed) 17) Don Carlton,,,,,,'Lil Thumper' Lenoir, North Carolina SS/B (4-Speed) 18) Robert Nance,,,,'Mr. Plymouth' Ringgold, Georgia SS/BA (Automatic) 19) Harold Dutton,,,,,,,'Drag Hag' Forest Park, Georgia SS/B (4-Speed) 20) Larry Todd Jacksonville, Florida,,,,,'St. John's Chrysler-Plymouth',,, St. Augustine, Florida SS/BA (Automatic) 21) Doug Warren,,,,,,,,'Check Mate' Fort Lauderdale, Florida,,,,,'Bill Binko Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 22) Dennis Dinsmore,,,,,,'Hemi Inc.' Fort Lauderdale, Florida SS/B (4-Speed) 23) Ray Christian Columbus, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 24) Bill Vanwey Dayton, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 25) Dick Humbert & Billy Stepp,,,,'Billy The Kid' Dayton, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 26) Arlen Vanke,,,,'East Town Chrysler-Plymouth' Akron, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 27) Wilkes Motor Sales (Bought by Arlon Vanke, for use as his 2nd car) Zainesville, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 28) Dave Whitaker,,,,,,,'Queen Bee' Cincinnati, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 29) Bob Porter,,,,,,,'Porter's Pride' Minford, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 30) Al Adamic,,,,,,,'Al's Toy' Wickcliffe, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 31) George Byers Sons Plymouth Columbus, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 32) Vaughn Currie,,,,'Soul Explosion' Memphis, Tennessee SS/B (4-Speed) 33) Billy Taylor & Pat Collins,,,,,,,,,'Lil Super Cuda' Memphis, Tennessee SS/BA (Automatic) 34) David Heath,,,,,,'Kentucky Colonels' Owensboro, Kentucky SS/B (4-Speed) 35) Paul Lance Madisonville, Kentucky SS/BA (Automatic) 36) Metcalf Chrysler-Plymouth Brewerton, Alabama SS/BA (Automatic) 37) Jim Hale,,,,,,,'Norcross Motors' Fort Smith, Arkansas SS/BA (Automatic) 38) Van Broussard,,,,,,,'Papa Cuda' Baton Rouge, Louisiana SS/BA (Automatic) 39) Dean Nicopolis Northville, Michigan SS/BA (Automatic) 40) Joseph Arvay Flint, Michigan SS/BA (Automatic) 41) Jim Wick,,,,,'Matchmaker' Fond du Lac, Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,'Packer City Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 2) John Hagen St. Paul, Minnesota SS/B (4-Speed) 43) Bob Coder Fort Wayne, Indiana SS/BA (Automatic) 44) Paul Lance Boonville, Indiana SS/B (4-Speed) 45) Schmaltz Concrete SS/BA (Automatic) Osgood, Indiana 46) Jim Halloran Chicago, Illinois,,,,,,,,'Park Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 47) Phil Bailey,,,,'Tinker Toy' Champaign, Illinois SS/B (4-Speed) 48) Chuck Ostrich Nevada, Iowa SS/BA (Automatic) 49) Greg Brennenman Washington, Iowa SS/B (4-Speed) 50) Rich Thomas,,,,,'Rich Thomas Racing' Arnold, Missouri SS/B (4-Speed) 51) Danny Byrd Sikeston, Missouri SS/B (4-Speed) 52) Bruce Sharkey,,,,,'Sharkey Racing Enterprises' Springfield, Missouri SS/B (4-Speed) 53) 'Micro Lube Special' KXOK Radio (sponsored Russel Funk) St. Louis, Missouri SS/BA (Automatic) 54) Billy Coone,,,,,,,'Deguello' (No Mercy) Waco, Texas SS/BA (Automatic) 55) Dallas County Plymouth Dealers Association Dallas, Texas SS/BA (Automatic) 56) McBroom Motors Pampa, Texas SS/BA (Automatic) 57) Don Grotheer,,,,,,,'Cable Chrysler-Plymouth' Oklahoma City, Oklahoma SS/B (4-Speed) 58) Gordon Stewart,,,,,,'Hair Bender' Sioux City, Souh Dakota SS/BA (Automatic) 59) Dave Wren Missoula, Montana SS/BA (Automatic) 60) Ron McDowell & Jerry Taylor,,,,,,'Gentle Ben' Meridian, Idaho SS/BA (automatic) 61) Judy Lilly,,,,,,,'Denver Plymouth Dealers' Denver, Colorado SS/BA (Automatic) 62) Ken Van Cleave Salem, Oregon SS/B (4-Speed) 63) 'Double Trouble' Hillsboro, Oregon,,,,,,,'Coletti Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 64) Ray Chaffee,,,,,'Pilgrim's Progress' Seattle, Washington SS/B (4-Speed) 65) Wiley Cossey,,,,,,'California Hooker Headers' Baldwin Park, California SS/B (4-Speed) 66) Don Bowers,,,,,,,'Prince Chrysler-Plymouth' Inglewood, California SS/BA (Automatic) 67) 'Bear-A-Cuda' Fremont, California,,,,'Freed Motor Co.' SS/BA (Automatic) 68) Chuck Poole,,,,,,,,,'Holeshot II' Sacramento, California,,,'Arden Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 69) Town & Country Chrysler-Plymouth Phoenix, Arizona SS/BA (Automatic) 70) Harrah's Casino Las Vegas, Nevada SS/BA (Automatic) * More to add (2) Hemi Cuda's |
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Not that's it's a couple of years later and a lot more views I'll try again. Any Quebec/Ontario/North East US folk remember this car , history, pics from the early 1980s? Phone # in ad is LaSalle/Montreal. We have documented this LO23 back to this time when it was advertised in the Auto Trader in 1983-84. We've hit a dead end here. It went to Nova Scotia in 1984, R. Boyd bought it. Possible Gene ONeill connection but we'd like to establish some ownership trail/history from 1983 and earlier. BTW MANY THANKS Mark, Greg, steve o, for the countless hrs researching another mystery dart. |
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Now that we have some Alberta representation here I've got a recommendation. It's high time that somebody stepped up here and, maybe in conjunction with the Red Deer or Calgary Mopar shows, organized a Reunion of the Old Trapper cars, drivers/owners at one of these shows. You've got a huge historical Super Stock contribution here and it's high time this happened. Cam's car has left the country but we all know the Old Trapper fleet are all there. you've lost Jim ,Cam , Dwight but you've got Dick and Albert (wouldn't it be cool to reunite these guys with the fleet) . And Allyn, Rod, Jim W. and Harold. I have 1 of Rhonagon's hemi street cars, I'd bring it. This needs to happen now before we lose any more of these legends. I'm sure a couple more Hemi A cars would "show" up to help pay tribute!!
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I just joined this site specifically because of this thread. I am amazed at all the knowledge on here and the rare photo's that continue to be posted.
I was wondering if anyone had some additional photo's of Bob Gaudreau's 'Candy Cuda'? There was one posted with the car in 69 rear trim on here that I had never seen. I have always been interested in seeing what cars "switched" to 69 trim in 1969. Seems to have been a popular car and I was told it was featured in a magazine - just not able to find many pictures on it. A buddy of mine is the brother in law of the original owner of the Suppa Cuda. He verified it was the mule car and he purchased it from Arlen Vanke. He is still kicking himself for letting it go. |
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Bob Gaudreau's 'Candy Cuda' was featured in the
December 1969 Super Stock & Drag Illustrated magazine. FR, Not everyone who bought these cars, fell in love with them. Many owners were selling them by the end of the year. If you wanted factory backing, you had to race them, and follow the guidelines set forth. |
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Chuck Poole, the wheelstanding driver got one of the originals. Sponsored by Arden Chrysler-Plymouth out of Sacramento, California. It was an SS/BA automatic, called 'Holeshot'. Raced at Fremont Dragstrip, Northern California. Won the SS/BA class at the 1968 AHRA Super/Stock Nationals at Fremont. Also in 1968, the other wheelstanding driver Wild Bill Shrewsberry, got a 68' 340 GTS Dart for E/Stock, by the Los Angeles County Dodge Dealers. |
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I saw the Ken VanCleave car back in 71. He also had a Demon Pro Stock. Only time I ever saw those cars.
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Cool shot! Thanks for posting.
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Chuck Poole 'Holeshot' Hemi Barracuda. Ran very briefly.
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here's one (not sure if its a BO29 or not) , you guys will know, running in quebec.
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here are couple of Cam Noseworthy's Crosstown dart as it looked just before it left Canada. It apparently left in fine style having appeared at Mission BC vintage drags towed into the strip on a trailer towed by a real HEMI CUDA. Love to see a pic of that. Dart ran real well, yarding the front end. Went south to warmer clime.
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That team owned a original BO29 and a lady lost control of her caddy and smashed into the original right thru the garage - they used parts from the wrecked original and built another car. Car had a beautiful paint scheme. |
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http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1299679361 http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...a5fd91a4f4.jpg Does anyone know if this was a 'real' Hemi Dart or not? Btw, check out the cigarette in Bob Reed's mouth. :) I don't think he could get away with that today in this Orwellian age of political correctness and authoritarianism. M68 |
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I remember seeing the "Lil Super Cuda" .
Candy Red and gold leaf just like it's big brother. The day I saw it at the track, it had a red primer, passenger side front fender. I do not remember who drove it. Back to my lurking corner. |
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The best photo of 'Lil Super Cuda' is in Larry Davis book.
Nice cherry red color. Anybody ever see Al Baldwin's SS/B Hemi Cuda out of Pineville, West Virginia. Al had a car dealership their. Car lettered 'Barbarian' |
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Nope, never heard of the car until now, Paul.
http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...cfa9136a44.jpg http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...3dce24177a.jpg M68 |
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Manhattan Speed Parts Hemi Dart at the bottom.
http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...4b2a3f0ce2.jpg http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...b31366a68b.jpg Home built or genuine L023 Dart? M68 |
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M68, yeah the rear tires on Cam's car were excessive. I tried buying that car in '99 and there were some serious concessions done to that car for speed regardless of originality, rear rails were relocated inboard for those huge slicks. Regardless a neat car with lots of western Canadian racing heritage. Somehow i ended up with a few of the leftovers from that car a while back. Sadly Cam passed away last year.
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Sure like the look of the skinny tires on the back of the Hustlin Hemi...what are those 7" rims with 9" slicks? what was the tire of choice up front 6.70x15, 7.10x15? Finally found a set of 15 x4 Cragars for mine but I need to change tire size.
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'The Hustler',,,,,,,,,,,,Larry Cooper
SS/BA,,,,, Dodge Dart out of 'Holiday Dodge',,,,Louisiana June 1968 NHRA Record Holder @ 11.10, entering the 1968 NHRA Springnationals Jim Hale, in the Norcross Plymouth Cuda SS/BA from Fort Smith, Arkansas McBroom Motors, Cuda SS/BA from Pampa, Texas. Manhattan Speed Shop SS/B Dart from lower Manhattan, New York City. Also ran A/MP at New York National Speedway and Suffolk County Raceway in 1968. |
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KB,
One of the first magazines to do a feature on the Hemi Cuda, was Super Stock & Drag Illustrated June 1968, of Sox & Martins SS/B. The photo shoot was done in late-March 1968 or early-April. That car won the SS/B class at the 68' Springnationals, beating Arlon Vanke in the class finals. Ran a best of 10.43 (.42 under) the 10.85 index. But broke (spun a tire off the rim) in the 2nd round of S/S Eliminator. |
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Link to image of "lil" Super Cuda.
http://www.lakelandraceway.com/image...super_cuda.jpg Stated on the site it was running SS/B. still no driver info. |
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'Lil' Super Cuda,,,
Did run SS/BA at the 69' Indy Nationals,,,,NHRA #843 Many guys changed transmissions,,,, primarily when they ran in Pro/Stock in 1970. |
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I was going thru some of the first pages of this thread and saw a post by Mark J that the McJury Dart was not found yet (posted after 08 reunion)...I understood @ the reunion that it was sorted out. Any updates folks? Chuck was looking over my car pretty hard @ the reunion...
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Found another "lil" Super Cuda pic, about halfway down the page.
http://www.cartechbooks.com/vstore/s...3&chapter=4692 back to my corner. Added: Carpinet Bros. 68 Hemi Cuda http://www.cartechbooks.com/vstore/s...3&chapter=4694 |
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I hate it when sites like the above put tiny pix on their webpage. :rolleyes: Anyway, here's an enhanced and larger shot of same photo.
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The front-grille is not a GT, looks like a 270 grille.
But who cares at 135+ mph. Vic, On the 'Hair Bender' Barracuda, very likely it was shipped to Ryan Plymouth in South Dakota. Also, 'Bear-A-Cuda', after Freed Motor Company, it was then sponsored by Fremont Dodge, out of Fremont, California. Here's a few. BO29 (#01 car),,,,,Sox & Martin BO29 (#02 car),,,,,Jack Werst BO29 (#06 car),,,,,Dave Wren BO29 (#13 car),,,,,Wilkes Motor Sales,,,,,,,,,,, Zainesville, Ohio BO29 (#14 car),,,,,Pete Myl Motors,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Corapolis, Pennsylvania BO29 (#33 car),,,,,Bill Vanwey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Dayton, Ohio BO29 (#47 car),,,,,Park Chrysler-Plymouth,,,,,Chicago, Illinois BO29 (#50 car),,,,,'Gentle Ben',,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Meridian, Idaho |
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The LO23 list starting from the northeast and following.
'13' of the LO23 Hemi Darts went through Grand Spaulding Dodge in Chicago. 1) Bill Flynn,,,,,,,,'County Dodge' New Haven, Connecticut SS/B (4-Speed) 2) Bob Ramstrom Worcester, Massachusetts SS/B (4-Speed) 3) Gene O'Neill Worcester, Massachusetts SS/B (4-Speed) 4) Chick Brignolo Norton, Massachusetts SS/BA (Automatic) 5) Joseph Petrelle Springfield, Massachusetts SS/BA (Automatic) 6) Chuck McJury Schenectady, New York SS/B (4-Speed) 7) Charlie Lendrum Westerlo, New York SS/BA (Automatic) 8) Dick Oldfield Kenmore, New York SS/BA (Automatic) 9) Charlie Castaldo Scarsdale, New York SS/B (4-Speed) 10) S & K Speed Shop West Babylon, L.I., New York SS/B (4-Speed) 11) Joe Jill Happauge, L.I., New York SS/BA (Automatic) 12) Manhattan Speed Shop New York City, New York SS/B (4-Speed) 13) Jones Colonial Dodge Pittsford, New York SS/BA (Automatic) 14) Charles Singer Dodge Kearney, New Jersey SS/B (4-Speed) 15) McCollum & Bolland Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania SS/BA (Automatic) 16) Bob Banning Dodge Hyattsville, Maryland SS/B (4-Speed) 17) John DeRosa Hyattsville, Maryland SS/BA (Automatic) 18) Richard Shipley Baltimore, Maryland SS/B (4-Speed) 19) Pete and Jack Toms,,,'That Dart,,,'Capitol Motors Dodge' Fort Dietrich, Maryland SS/BA (Automatic) 20) Bob Hodge,,,,,'Beach Brothers Dodge' Salem, Virginia SS/B (4-Speed) 21) Melvin Yow Lillington, North Carolina SS/BA (Automatic) 22) Max Hurley West Jefferson, North Carolina SS/B (4-Speed) 23) Clyde Curtis Hudson, North Carolina SS/BA (Automatic) 24) Reid Whisnant Stockbridge, Georgia SS/B (4-Speed) 25) Wyman Barnett Thomaston, Georgia SS/BA (Automatic) 26) Bill Tanner Norcross, Georgia SS/BA (Automatic) 27) Bill Tanner (2nd car) Norcross, Georgia SS/B (4-Speed) 28) Biscayne Dodge, Joe Weis Miami, Florida SS/BA (Automatic) 29) Alan Carroli Daytona Beach, Florida SS/B (4-Speed) 30) Mary Ann Foss Bellville, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 31) Jerome Williams Cleveland, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 32) Denny Kilbane Strongsville, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 33) Miami Valley Dodge Dayton, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 34) Ken Holwick Salem, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 35) Ed Knesevitch Columbus, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 36) Northland Dodge 'The Rod Shop' Columbus, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 37) Ray Daily Dayton, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 38) Herb Mcandless Memphis, Tennessee SS/B (4-Speed) 39) Bill Welker Clarksville, Tennessee SS/BA (Automatic) 40) Thurman Callaham, 'Rumble Bee; Knoxville, Tennessee SS/B (4-Speed) 41) Kenny Salter Mobile, Alabama SS/BA (Automatic) 42) Cecil South Birmingham, Alabama SS/BA (Automatic) 43) Joe Ralph Thompson Rison, Arkansas SS/B (4-Speed) 44) Larry Cooper,,,,'Holiday Dodge' West Monroe, Louisiana SS/BA (Automatic) 45) Tom Crutchfield Kokomo, Indiana SS/BA (Automatic) 46) Larry Griffith Livonia, Michigan SS/B (4-Speed) 47) Richard Smith Farmington, Michigan SS/BA (Automatic) 48) Don R. Brewer Dodge (Driver; Gil Clark) Port Huron, Michigan SS/BA (Automatic) 49) Robert Alton,,,,,, 'Wild Fire' Farmington, Michigan SS/BA (Automatic) 50) Jack Thomas Hinsdale, Illinois SS/B (4-Speed) 51) Ed Halsey,,,'Watson's Auto Sales' Bethalto, Illinois SS/BA (Automatic) 52) Lloyd McVey East Peoria, Illinois SS/BA (Automatic) 53) Balzekas Motor Sales Chicago, Illinois SS/BA (Automatic) 54) White Bear Dodge White Bear Lake, Minnesota SS/BA (Automatic) 55) Jim Miller St. Louis, Missouri SS/BA (Automatic) 56) Preston Honea,,,,, 'Ray Rixman Dodge' St. Louis, Missouri SS/BA (Automatic) 57) Harold Tomlinson Garland, Texas SS/B (4-Speed) 58) Gene Snow,,,,,,,(LO23M8B297857) Fort Worth, Texas SS/BA (Automatic) 59) Dallas County Dodge Dealers Dallas, Texas SS/B (4-Speed) 60) Vera's Automotive,,,'Creveling Dodge' Corpus Cristi, Texas SS/B (4-Speed) 61) Jon Hooper Tulsa, Oklahoma SS/B (4-Speed) 62) Rick Kent American Falls, Idaho SS/B (4-Speed) 63) Dick Landy Sherman Oaks, California SS/BA (Automatic) 64) Dick Landy (2nd car) Sherman Oaks, California SS/B (4-Speed) 65) Bill Bagshaw Hollywood, California SS/B (4-Speed) 66) Shirley Shahan Tulare, California SS/BA (Automatic) 67) Butch Leal,,,,'Delano Dodge' Delano, California SS/B (4-Speed) 68) Harry Holton Patterson, California SS/BA (Automatic) 69) Ruel Nichol Arcadia, California SS/BA (automatic) 70) Jim Clark Covina, California SS/B (4-speed) 71) Chinook Dart Calgary, Canada SS/BA (Automatic) 72) Cam Noseworthy Edmonton, Canada SS/BA (Automatic) * 10 more to be listed, as soon as I confirm the data. |
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Mike,
I'll have to search for the magazine regarding the 1968 Hemi Barracuda. The car was originally purchased by a 17 year-old kid out of Southern California, in May 1968. Not sure what dealership had it. It was a long time ago. |
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Paul,
I worked at Town and Country Dodge from '69 to '71 and knew the origional owners of the "Wild Fire" SS/BA '68 Dart. I was told that there is a Robert Alton (Alten?) listed as one of the purchasers. Did his name ever pop up in your research. Thanks for any info you can give! Jim Shiels |
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