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ALMACK 08-13-2011 11:59 AM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Can anyone tell me what the natural class a 16.52 lbs/hp car falls into ?
And, what is the next slower class down is ? Is it 17.0 or 17.5 lbs/hp ?

I don't have an NHRA rulebook.

I found the 91 Lincoln MKVII is eligible and it uses the Mustang 5.0 engine.

Mike Carr 08-13-2011 12:02 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Weight breaks for all NHRA and IHRA S/SS classes:

http://classracer.com/classes.html

ALMACK 08-13-2011 03:32 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 274904)
Weight breaks for all NHRA and IHRA S/SS classes:

http://classracer.com/classes.html

Thanks Mike !

I see a 1995 Town Car Cartier could technically run U/SA......hmmm......

Tod Lane 08-13-2011 04:13 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 274937)
Thanks Mike !

I see a 1995 Town Car Cartier could technically run U/SA......hmmm......

I miss spoke, the car is actually a 1994 with the 4.6....

The question I have is the 4.6 capable of making this 3800 lb behemoth run under the index. I can get the car for nothing or next to it...
What would it take to get under index. Gears, convertor... WHere would you get some headers ?

Bob Pagano 08-13-2011 05:15 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Any of the guys that build headers, even Billy could do it ! But they will need the car to do the job.

ALMACK 08-13-2011 07:34 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod Lane (Post 274942)
I miss spoke, the car is actually a 1994 with the 4.6....

The question I have is the 4.6 capable of making this 3800 lb behemoth run under the index. I can get the car for nothing or next to it...
What would it take to get under index. Gears, convertor... WHere would you get some headers ?


Your 94 could run :
......Q/SA @ 3570 w/driver.
Or, R/SA @ 3780 ( natural class)
Or, T/SA @ 3990 lbs.


This engine has me wondering.
I saw another thread about the 96-98 Mustang GT and I do not know the differnce between the 94 Lincoln 4.6 and the 96-98 Mustang 4.6.

Anyway, the concensus of the thread was that the 96-98 Mustang makes a good Pure Stocker. Not sure about an NHRA Stocker tho.

Not sure on this, but I was thinking the '90-99 Town Car was based on the Panther chassis. (Crown Vic)
If so, then there is where you would look for headers.

Robert Swartz 08-13-2011 07:51 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 274975)
Your 94 could run :
......Q/SA @ 3570 w/driver.
Or, R/SA @ 3780 ( natural class)
Or, T/SA @ 3990 lbs.


This engine has me wondering.
I saw another thread about the 96-98 Mustang GT and I do not know the differnce between the 94 Lincoln 4.6 and the 96-98 Mustang 4.6.

Anyway, the concensus of the thread was that the 96-98 Mustang makes a good Pure Stocker. Not sure about an NHRA Stocker tho.

Not sure on this, but I was thinking the '90-99 Town Car was based on the Panther chassis. (Crown Vic)
If so, then there is where you would look for headers.

Problem with IHRA pure stock. The weight breaks stop at I/PS, which is a 16.00 break. This car is way above that. These engines "should" be basically the same as the 96-98 Mustang? This is the 2 valve engine. Ford went to the 3 valve in 1999, I believe.

As my partner Tod says, "we can probably get the car for next to nothing". If we can't do anything with it. I'll just strip it out and sell the shell for scrap.

Yeah, it would at the least need headers, a converter and a posi unit and some gear. I have a set of wheels, just need a set of front tires and a set of slicks. If we end up with it, probably just do a simple tune up on it, check over for safety, brakes and such. Just take it to one of the local strips, see just how far off it is. I'll take it somewhere and weigh it first. Give me an idea of what we're up against.

ALMACK 08-13-2011 08:07 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Swartz (Post 274979)
Problem with IHRA pure stock. The weight breaks stop at I/PS, which is a 16.00 break. This car is way above that. These engines "should" be basically the same as the 96-98 Mustang? This is the 2 valve engine. Ford went to the 3 valve in 1999, I believe.

As my partner Tod says, "we can probably get the car for next to nothing". If we can't do anything with it. I'll just strip it out and sell the shell for scrap.

Yeah, it would at the least need headers, a converter and a posi unit and some gear. I have a set of wheels, just need a set of front tires and a set of slicks. If we end up with it, probably just do a simple tune up on it, check over for safety, brakes and such. Just take it to one of the local strips, see just how far off it is. I'll take it somewhere and weigh it first. Give me an idea of what we're up against.

Robert:
I knew the Town car was not a good choice for IHRA Pure Stock.
As an NHRA Stocker or IHRA EFI Stocker I would think the TCar would need a 4.56 gear, a 4000 + stall , lightweight wheels/tires, lightweight brake rotors, electric fans, and special long duration cams. I would say that 2V could rev, so that would be the key.

You ought to try the combo and let us all know if the car gets close to the index. :)

Billy Nees 08-14-2011 08:51 AM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Looks like a few of you have done some detective work on this Lincoln and I'd say "Go for it!". It really can't be a bad combo, if it fits T it should run the index. How fast will a Pure Stock Mustang go?

Robert Swartz 08-14-2011 10:43 AM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 275024)
Looks like a few of you have done some detective work on this Lincoln and I'd say "Go for it!". It really can't be a bad combo, if it fits T it should run the index. How fast will a Pure Stock Mustang go?


Billy,

Hinges on how little we can get the car for. Have to chuckle a little here, just never thought of a 4 door Lincoln as a "race car"! If we do this, correct me if my initial thinking is wrong. I figure the minimum I need to run the car, headers, I haven't researched this at all. Does anyone make headers for a Lincoln? Get a posi unit, if the car doesn't have one, or a mini-spool. A gear set, this has an 8.8, as suggested by Almack, a 4:88 or deeper gear, suggestions for a 4000 lb car? As mentioned, I have a set of wheels. Anyone in the Indiana-Kentucky-Ohio area got any old used fronts or slicks with some life left in them that you don't want to retire off of, LOL!That'd be enough for me to take it to the track.


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