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BadBanana 09-08-2011 01:23 AM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 281279)
Dave I don't know where Bill is these days. At one time Bill and 2 of his former employees were all working at D.E.I. at the same time. I have spoken to both of them via Facebook.....


Your intake was done by Bill.....that was his work and he always signed it with his little Crow picture. Those intakes were good and untill the Darts came along there was not many intakes that would be better.

Bill also did some Holley intakes and they were basically copies of what we saw from Lee Shepard. Runner extensions in the plenum.....Made big low end torque. Shepards work was just about the best you could get and if he did it....well it was worth copying....

Bill spent hours and hours on intakes and really hated doing them because of all the time. He did a lot of welding and grinding and then had to polish them. No way you could make any money doing those things.

I have to laugh when I think of the time he overheated his old cheezy welder and it went up in a cloud of smoke......He went and bought a big old clunker but it could tig weld all day and not overheat......

A Victor Jr for a small block was worth probably .15 on my old SS/JA 350/255 over an untouched intake.

I think you had a Chevy II for a while with that engine in the same class....

I do also remember Brenniser......He had a big Monte Carlo and came to our shop a few times.......I think he broke too much stuff and quit...... Those early days of welded and ported SS heads was no bargain.....We never did any welding on cast iron heads....Epoxy on the intake side was all that I can recall us ever doing.....

I left Crows in 1991 or 1992........Used to go there for some stuff of my own as I had a Stocker in 96-97 and had Bill do a block for me......Haven't seen him since.......

Rich: How do I find Bill on facebook?

Franks' Monte was my old one.- SS/GTA. I sold it when I built the first of two Camaro SS/GTAs
That manifold was a GREAT piece and definitely worth something. Ralph got it for me.. I believe I had quit before the Darts got popular.

Rich Biebel 09-08-2011 04:49 AM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
Dave,

Bill is not on Facebook.......I don't know where he is or how to contact him.

I have contact with 2 former Crow's co-workers and they have not mentioned where Bill is......

Paul Ceasrine 09-09-2011 04:10 PM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
1970,,, NED 1 Points Meet.

http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c...le.php?id=1226

Paul Ceasrine 10-19-2011 06:14 PM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
I just had to post it,,,,,,,,,,

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...8&d=1244897086

joeg 10-21-2011 10:41 PM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadBanana (Post 281250)
Does anyone in the NJ area know how to get in touch with Frank Brenniser? He had purchased my '69 Camaro SS/EA, and later my SS/GTA Monte Carlo. He owned and ran a junk yard at the time. Any help would be appreciated.
Dave Colbert


Dave, i know where the camaro is located.
I can get you Frank number too. i just asked about the monte today, heard it might be for sale.

From your `69 camaro, i stopped down the garage today and took this photo.

http://www.dragracers.org/PINKS/badbananalicsm.jpg


Bad Banana `69 Camaro. 2009 Pinks all Out E-town

http://www.dragracers.org/PINKS/badbanana1.jpg

http://www.dragracers.org/PINKS/badbanana2.jpg


-Joe G

Paul Ceasrine 11-25-2014 12:11 PM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
Can you locate the weight re-distribution.


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1312327596


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...h=208675;image

Paul Ceasrine 11-26-2014 06:54 AM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
Jake,

#1 Modification

On the rear back window.

It was 'double-thickness' {.500"} glass instead of the standard
1/4" thickness.

I believe the weight of the 'special glass' was #52 lbs. instead of
#26 lbs.

mike s 12-19-2014 04:32 PM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadBanana (Post 281252)
That paint scheme on the Fink Bros. car reminds me that it had to have come out of Tom Tiganelli's Shadowoods Auto Center in Detroit.


Corrrect , Tommy did the Fink's engines and transmissions.

Paul Ceasrine 12-19-2014 09:16 PM

Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'
 
K-Man

In 1970 > SS/EA = 8.00 to 8.49 Wt/HP

1970 Chevelle SS454 'convertible' with T/H Transmission .... #3734 lbs.

The 454 was re-factored to 465 HP for Super/Stock .............. 8.03 Wt/HP
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1970 Superbird '426 Street Hemi' ............................................ #3837 lbs.

The 426 Hemi was re-factored to 465 HP for Super/Stock ..... 8.25 Wt/HP


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