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Harry 6674 02-23-2016 12:43 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 496573)
Larry you stated that you love heads up racing. When you do race a heads up and both redlight do you except the worst redlight as the loser whether its you or your competition? If yes then your first statement about worst red light has no place for NHRA Championship racing contradicts your action in a heads up scenario.

If your racing heads up the first red light is always the worst red light.

Jeff Teuton 02-23-2016 12:59 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
I'm sure this is in these 180 posts, but at the Spring Fling, how many actual races did this affect as compared to the current First Red Out? Does that sound right?

Mile High 02-23-2016 01:34 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 496630)
I'm sure this is in these 180 posts, but at the Spring Fling, how many actual races did this affect as compared to the current First Red Out? Does that sound right?

It hasn't been run yet.


http://www.bracketraces.com/spring-f...lion-vegas.php

Jeff

Jeff Stout 02-23-2016 01:40 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry 6674 (Post 496628)
If your racing heads up the first red light is always the worst red light.

That's my point. If its ok in a heads up round why not in shoe polish rounds. Worst is a loser

Peter Biondo 02-23-2016 01:41 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Jeff-

We did not have the Spring Fling yet as it will be in April (we only did a trial run for one round in Vegas this weekend within their weekly bracket race). We implemented TruSTART for one full round (one cycle).. about 80 pairs (give or take). Out of those 80 pairs; we had 4 'double red' occurrences. Out of those 4 pairs, 2 of the pairs had the faster car having the "worst" red.

Another aspect of the implementation of this was the psychological element. Speaking as a racer (that normally is the faster car in bracket racing and with my B/SA). I always felt when I left second I could afford to 'set up' slightly more aggressive on the starting line. TruSTART will force both lanes to approach the tree the same (leaving first or last). This was part of the reason (besides the obvious) that pushed us towards TruSTART.

With all this said, I personally will continue to try to be the 'chaser/ faster car' as I enjoy the luxury of watching the finish line from behind rather looking over my shoulder.

Bob Mulry 02-23-2016 01:47 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Actually I hope that it helped no one...........................

Just let it sit in the background until it is needed to determine the winner of a double red light in a handicap type race........

Remember when Auto-Start was enacted and everybody thought that it change drag racing??????????

Nobody even talks about Auto-Start anymore........

Taking away deep staging changed racing much more than Auto-Start...

Just let it happen because in a few years no one will even notice TruStart..

Can't we all just get along,
Bob

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...ayGULFywAX3m9u

bill dedman 02-23-2016 01:55 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 496643)
Just let it happen because in a few years no one will even notice TruStart..

Can't we all just get along?
Bob

Bob Mulry; a voice of reason...

Bruce Noland 02-23-2016 02:07 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Biondo (Post 496640)
Jeff-

We did not have the Spring Fling yet as it will be in April (we only did a trial run for one round in Vegas this weekend within their weekly bracket race). We implemented TruSTART for one full round (one cycle).. about 80 pairs (give or take). Out of those 80 pairs; we had 4 'double red' occurrences. Out of those 4 pairs, 2 of the pairs had the faster car having the "worst" red.

Another aspect of the implementation of this was the psychological element. Speaking as a racer (that normally is the faster car in bracket racing and with my B/SA). I always felt when I left second, I could afford to 'set up' slightly more aggressive on the starting line. TruSTART will force both lanes to approach the tree the same (leaving first or last). This was part of the reason (besides the obvious) that pushed us towards TruSTART.

With all this said, I personally will continue to try to be the 'chaser/ faster car' as I enjoy the luxury of watching the finish line from behind rather looking over my shoulder.

Peter, to be sure, you are a gifted racer, there is no doubt about it. You proved that years ago with the old Firebird. But what about the rest of us old ducks?

Bruce Noland 02-23-2016 03:03 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 496643)
Actually I hope that it helped no one...........................

Just let it sit in the background until it is needed to determine the winner of a double red light in a handicap type race........

Remember when Auto-Start was enacted and everybody thought that it change drag racing??????????

Nobody even talks about Auto-Start anymore........

Taking away deep staging changed racing much more than Auto-Start...

Just let it happen because in a few years no one will even notice TruStart..

Can't we all just get along,
Bob

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...ayGULFywAX3m9u

Bob, are you still racing nhra Stock?

Mile High 02-23-2016 04:48 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Biondo (Post 496640)
Jeff-

We did not have the Spring Fling yet as it will be in April (we only did a trial run for one round in Vegas this weekend within their weekly bracket race). We implemented TruSTART for one full round (one cycle).. about 80 pairs (give or take). Out of those 80 pairs; we had 4 'double red' occurrences. Out of those 4 pairs, 2 of the pairs had the faster car having the "worst" red.

Another aspect of the implementation of this was the psychological element. Speaking as a racer (that normally is the faster car in bracket racing and with my B/SA). I always felt when I left second, I could afford to 'set up' slightly more aggressive on the starting line. TruSTART will force both lanes to approach the tree the same (leaving first or last). This was part of the reason (besides the obvious) that pushed us towards TruSTART.

With all this said, I personally will continue to try to be the 'chaser/ faster car' as I enjoy the luxury of watching the finish line from behind rather looking over my shoulder.


Peter,


Of the single car red lights how many were the fast car and how many the slow car? Just wondering if having Trustart made fast guys go red more than usual. If not why the concern about Trustart.


Jeff


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