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SStockDart 12-24-2008 07:37 PM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Here is a qualifying effort from Jim Hale's 68 Barracuda (Original Hemi with scoop and lightweights) and a 383 engine.

22 4406 GT/EA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '68 Barracuda 10.143 10.95 -0.807

Jeff Lee 12-25-2008 12:19 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Saran (Post 97498)
OK, on this same vain, would or is the fiberglass hood scoop off
a 1973/74 Dodge Dart legal for a same year Plymouth Duster??

I would say definetly not. That would be cross-breeding of body parts.

Jeff Lee 12-25-2008 12:24 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 97499)
Here is a qualifying effort from Jim Hale's 68 Barracuda (Original Hemi with scoop and lightweights) and a 383 engine.

22 4406 GT/EA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '68 Barracuda 10.143 10.95 -0.807


Know which 383 that is? I would like to see a '62 383/343 2x4 in a Hemi A-body with all the lite-weight parts and open scoop. Think of a 383 with a full sized tunnel ram in SS!
I still say the open scoop would be legal as the Hemi scoop was an open scoop body part as an OEM piece.

Mark Yacavone 12-25-2008 12:46 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

Chris DeGidio 12-25-2008 12:52 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 97514)
Know which 383 that is? I would like to see a '62 383/343 2x4 in a Hemi A-body with all the lite-weight parts and open scoop. Think of a 383 with a full sized tunnel ram in SS!
I still say the open scoop would be legal as the Hemi scoop was an open scoop body part as an OEM piece.


I'm real sure he runs the 1967 383 combo and that the scoop is open.

Jeff Lee 12-25-2008 02:12 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 97515)
Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

I would think if part of an OEM body package it should be all or nothing. But then again, if somebody wanted to build a clone '68 Hemi A-body for SS, NHRA probably woudn't care if you had the lite-weight parts as you would only be placing yourself at a disadvantage.

So out of curiousity what weight / class would a 273/235 fall into using a Hemi A-Body?

Mark Yacavone 12-25-2008 02:21 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 97520)
I would think if part of an OEM body package it should be all or nothing. But then again, if somebody wanted to build a clone '68 Hemi A-body for SS, NHRA probably woudn't care if you had the lite-weight parts as you would only be placing yourself at a disadvantage.

So out of curiousity what weight / class would a 273/235 fall into using a Hemi A-Body?

Without looking it up ,I'd say 13 # ....whatever that is. GT/L?

Shawn Blair 12-25-2008 03:45 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 97515)
Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

One good reason for the scoop would be carb clearance, this would be a good thing if running the 1962 343horse 383 combo with a tunnel ram. I'm still waiting to see that one! It would have to be fast with those two carbs.

Bud Lefevre 12-25-2008 04:11 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 97499)
Here is a qualifying effort from Jim Hale's 68 Barracuda (Original Hemi with scoop and lightweights) and a 383 engine.

22 4406 GT/EA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '68 Barracuda 10.143 10.95 -0.807

Could that be a 70 383 claimed as a Challenger or Cuda with fresh air ?

How about a 340 6pk motor, it had fresh air.

Angelo DiTocco 12-25-2008 10:23 AM

Re: Older Superstock GT cars with scoops
 
I can see where there could be some confusion. When the NHRA opened up the GT rule a year or two ago, they allow any year body to be run as a GT class car if a different year or different from "factory equipped" engine combo was used. Prior to that change, the rule stated that the body of a GT car had to be 1980 or newer. Now it is any year, although I have only noticed a few instances where this was applied and an older body was used in GT. I could be wrong, but I doubt anyone will see something like a 68 Hemi-Cuda body with a different engine, run as a GT car. If someone did though, they would have to close up the hood scoop if the motor they used did not originally come with a fresh air system.

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