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Exactly my point. Niether one has shown that, yet. But, I will add that you were talking 800 HP for the Mustang a while back.

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Maybe the tweaks Calvert talks about forthe 700hp CJ are not stock legal??? I have an A/SA Fairlane theat hasn't been raced in 10 years. It made 578 hp 545 lb ft 15 yrs ago and ran 10.50's @125 so I think there are 650 hp stockers out there but I'm way out of the loop and was never really in the loop to begin with.

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>>>"Exactly my point. Niether one has shown that, yet. "<<<

I imagine that if John Calvert says the car he drove to victory at Pomona is capable of 700 hp, it is.

That's MY point. I don't know of another legal Stocker motor that makes 700 hp. Do you, Gump?

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And you have a .........?

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Gump,
I really think you have no point in this debate. Nor do I think you have a dog in this hunt. You say you have an AA project. Please tell us about it. And are you, like me, really close or just a few years away from getting it to the track. You said that someone posted a remark about the 427 making 700 horsepower. Who was that? You can't come on here and double talk forever without someone calling you on it. Secondly, I'm not backing down from what I was told by the Ford guys. If you notice my post on this thread said 700+ Horsepower.

Bigshow,
The CJs have been to two races. And set one trigger already for a review for the ahfs which, as we all know is a joke. In the second race a CJ put down a 9.78 with a 1/8 mile speed of 109.80 (no GM or Mopar Stocker has ever gone that fast in the 1/8 and that is after forty years of work) and as John Calvert said they still have some "tweaking" that can be done.

Nothing is going to change the minds of those who are involved in this debate. This is a cooked deal.

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My point is the same as it has been from the beginning. I like these cars and I think that they are here to stay. They are in violation of no existing rules that I have seen. I also feel that once they show what they can do that the NHRA should look at the weight breaks.


I would suggest that calling someone a liar without proof is not nice. I reserve the right to keep my project quiet for now.


That post must be pages back. Arnold posted his numbers in response.


Something else that we agree on.

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Gump,
I'm surprised you can't find the post about the 427 that made 700 horsepower. You're so good at finding quotes. But, I did a little of the leg work for you. And I could not find the post either.

Liar is too strong a word - it is your word. I never called you a liar. But you said that you had a dog in the hunt because you had an AA project in the works. Of course you can keep it as quiet as you would like. Please give us updates on your project - especially when you get it ready to run.

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I couldn't find it either. So there is a good chance that I am wrong on that one. Either way I know that you can take the numbers that Arnold posted to the bank.

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Gump asked:
>>>"And you have a .........?"

I am not sure why you asked that question, particularly in view of your refusal to tell us what YOUR car is. Different rules, depending on whom you are, I guess... Why the secrecy; does your paranoia run that deep??? (guess it must...)

My car is just a "bracket," street/strip car. (Can't afford a "Class" car, these days.) And as such, it's really not pertinent to this discussion, but since you asked, it's a 1972 Valiant 4-door sedan with a 1998 Dodge 360 Magnum engine fitted with a V-1, S-trim, centrifugal supercharger, and apparently would run high 11's if I ever got it to a quarter-mile facility. It runs 9.79 @ 106mph in 1,000-feet, with a 3.55 gear, on worn-out drag radials (pathetic 1.81 60-foot times.). The only way that information is pertinent to this discussion is that building and running it has given me at least some understanding of how boost affects horsepower, from a first-person basis. Unblown, it was a low 13-second car.

Ten pounds of boost added almost 50-percent to my engine's "pre-supercharged" output. At 360 cubic inches and pulling a 3,600-pound package to high 11's, it is probably putting out around 480 flywheel horsepower; a very weak-kneed powerplant compared with the much-smaller Mustang factory-blown units that are the subject of this discussion.

Just why you had any desire to know that is beyond me. If you think that my not running an AA/SA car invalidates my opinion, then that's your right. But, the racers' board is separate from this one, and if I was a competitor at this time, with a permanent competition number, I'd be posting over there. This board is for people who don't currently race. You knew that, didn't you? Knowing that as you do, I'm curious as to why you'd have any interest in what kind of a car I have because it has no pertinence to this discussion.

At least, I use my real name, so folks who want to tell me that my opinion is worthless know exactly to whom they are talking. I have lots of problems, but paranoia is not one of them, thankfully. LOL!

For the record, I am REALLY glad the Mustangs have been built; I am REALLY glad the Chargers have been built. I sincerely hope that somehow, some way, competitive 2010 Camaros find their way into this mix. I think it's a very good thing (having "factory" cars in the Eliminator).

The ONLY problem I have is what seems to be the unfairly low HP factor that was assigned these Ford cars. It spoils everything with regard to their place in the Stock and S/S racing they are intended for. I think they're, to put it mildly, "mis-classified."

That fairy-tale factor needs to be changed, and not in the "slow-as-cold-molasses" AHFS, time-eating, way. The NASCAR hemi got horsepower from NHRA Tech before one ever hit the strip. Don't say it's unprecedented, or can't be done... ask Joe Teuton.

The 2010 CJ's need a dose of that to make this "new factory race car" business viable. As it stands, it's just a bad joke, but the joke is on the cars owners' who have to run those factory 'stangs heads-up, in class, or in the Eliminator.

My opinion, only, of course.

Thanks for listening.

Bill

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Not at all paranoid. I have my reasons.


My name is Daren Poole-Adams. My IHRA competition number is 9043. My cell phone number is 704-692-0860. If you had done a search you would have found all of that information posted on here. I go by Gump because that is what a lot of my racing friends like to call me.

Take Care,

Daren