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:D Thanks for the info. I know working on these is no fun, that is why have waited until now to buy a "performance?" car. But the B5 blue classic has already been a ball of fun in only 3 weeks!! Would I rather have a 70 Cuda with ANY motor. Well Yea, but I am still happy.:p

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I feel sorry for you for having to work on this stuff all day........my 91 Vette Convert. isnt the fastest but 13.90's 14.0's at 99 MPH (stab and steer) is OK. Its an all stock 20,000 mile L98 with a 2.59 rear gear, 700-R4 Trans except for a Hyper chip. 27 MPG on a trip.....24 MPG running around. Its no LS-1 but its OK.

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The new stuff is not any harder to work on than the crap they turned out in the late '70's-early '80-s. Anyone ever change plugs in a V-8 Monza?

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Yes. Yes I have. And it wasn't nearly so bad as changing the plugs in my 98 Firebird 3800 Series II V6. Or a 78 400 Pontiac powered TA. Or a late model (90 and up or so) Cadillac transverse mounted V8 FWD (back 4 plugs). Or a 68 Cougar or Mustang 428.

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as much as i may like gm ( i was raised to think that nothing else existed or was worth messing with.. i have since learned the errors of my ways).. the new camaros are an awesome performance package but i predict that it will suffer the same fate as the last incarnation of the GTO .. thats just my opinon though.. its sad to see gm in the shape they're in ... i wonder how long before somebody starts calling my rambler a fiat....

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Thats why I like a 1962 or 63 409 SS.....LOL

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I own a bone stock 02 Z06 corvette 405hp, I borrowed Frank Genevesi's helmet and took it down the track at one of Dave Ley's S/SS race at Atco. I neglected to turn off the traction control, it spun the tire, cut out cylinders and still went 13.339 @ 110. 2.293 60' 5.966 330' 8.851 1/8 . Drove back home to Long Island at 75mph getting 22mpg/highway. Tell me that a 60's muscle car could do that.

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The performance of the new cars can be impressive.

However, show me a 60's muscle car that cost 1/2 as much as a house, took 5-6 years to pay for, with payments as high as a mortgage payment, and required service at a dealer that charged $75 per hour and had $100K worth of tools and equipment.

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that much is true.. you can hardly ever have your cake & eat it to... but i still consider my 86 Buick Grand National a modern car ( even though its 23 years old) & its bone stock performance numbers were on par or better than most of the current performance muscle... too bad nobody paid more attention to that sleepy old folks car company when the big wigs kinda let them have do whatever & then shut them down after they saw the animal they created .. & hardly no marketing on them either.. maybe its just as well too.. helps add to the value ;) .. but who in the 80's was gonna pay more for some v6 with that new fangled fuel injection when they could get a v8 with a carb for less $ HA! anyways...

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amen !!!!!!!!!