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treessavoy 02-28-2010 11:52 PM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Valentine (Post 172038)
I thought the reason to use a two-step on a stocker was to give the guys who don't use one something to bitch about.


And here I thought two steps were for drivers that weren't coordinated enough to look at a tach and the tree at the same time.....we used to call 'em rookies.

JimR

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-01-2010 01:19 AM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 172101)
I'm pretty sure this won't get mentioned unless I do it, but on an automatic turbo car, a 2 step is a necessity.
As you stall up the converter, the boost comes in, so then the stall speed increases, then more boost and so on ,until the brakes no longer hold . The 2 step caps off that process at a predetermined point, in my case ,about 3800 rpm.

Very good to know....interesting and makes sense seems like one of those things youd never know unless youve been there, building a twin turbo 72, I was going with a 6 speed but if I go auto Ill know, thanks Mark.

CrateCamaro 03-01-2010 06:40 PM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
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Originally Posted by gmonde (Post 172090)
consistancey ,,,,like mentioned you you dont have to worry about rpm leave ,,also the inconsistancey of the accelerator pump circuit during hot and cold temps ,,but making the change from foot braker (brake gas)to a two step off the brake can be a huge learning curve,,there many factors holding the car at the line (my car will hold comfortably at 850 psi)but its easy to put way to much brake in to holding the car ,this will affect reaction time ,,its real easy to go red,,, but certainly the rush of the engine chattering at 3600-4000 and letting off the foot brake and have the engine to go full throttle is a sound that is music to any racer loves to hear ,,,not pro stock but its as close as i will get
gmonde


x2. Noticed some main cap walk this year but I also hit the 2 step on the big end a few time by accident. Not a good thing when the engine goes from 6700 to 3000 then stalls. I now have a switch that engages the 2 step in low gear only.

gmonde 03-01-2010 07:07 PM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith 944 (Post 172118)
does it hurt to go low rpm like 1200-2000rpm?

when you get below 2000 rpm it will pop and back fire ,,there isnt enough engine revoluton for the engine to come off clean once the trigger is pulled ,,,as far as damage ,,might be a little harder on the bearings

gmonde

Marine One 03-02-2010 11:15 PM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
Depends on type used. Some cut the ignition only and the fuel keeps getting dumped in the dead cyl's, others cut ignition and fuel such as some used on FI, however not all FI 2 steps cut both either.

Marine One 03-02-2010 11:18 PM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
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Originally Posted by Ed OBrien (Post 172044)
Lee
That is another use ! Also hooking one up to a delay box is a good use and it's been done ! Have a nice day

Don't forget tranz brakes.

M Brand 505B 03-02-2010 11:25 PM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
does it hurt to go low rpm like 1200-2000rpm?

It all depends upon the car and carb. I have a 14 second bracket car equipped with an edelbrock that leaves fine at 1050-1100 rpm off the two step. It's been quite successful.

Robert Simpson 03-03-2010 04:23 PM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
Michael, if you would PM me I want to ask you about your combination. I have a 14 sec street car that I am bracket racing this yr.

Thanks

M Brand 505B 03-03-2010 08:37 PM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
Robert,

Pm has been sent.

Tim Ellis 03-05-2010 02:04 AM

Re: Advantage of 2 Step on Stocker???
 
Pat cook or anyone else who uses a brake pressure switch to release their 2 step. Where'd you get it, do you also need a gauge , is the pressure adjustable, and where/ how is it plumbed into brake system?


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