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Frito 03-22-2010 02:24 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 176621)
Check to see if you need the trans shield, window net, certified chassis, and the better fire suit for starters. I think the 6.1 DP cars falls SS/DA or EA ( can I say Mustang ss/da @ 9.08) and I think you need the cage, shield, net, and chassis there. I am planning on being there is SS/JA, and you should see how big a blanket a XXX L fire suit is. Must be 10 yards of material in that thing.

At the time Don Little did this, he had to only add the window net and trans shield.

Harry 6674 03-22-2010 02:29 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
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Originally Posted by drooze (Post 176629)
Weve got all that, cage certed, net, and trans shield, Ive got to check on the Suit, I think its ok, could be wrong, which means probably am wrong.

Well be running a 5.7, bummer is I just sold a set of monster ported heads not too long ago they would have been great for this. Sold em because I couldnt run em in stock and they sat on the shelf for a year, oh well.

I think I can run SS/JA with this combo , if all is well that would be fun, and history as it were the first 2 Challenger DP's running in SS together....

Be careful with monster ported heads. There are max volumes you must adhere to.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-22-2010 03:37 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry 6674 (Post 176648)
Be careful with monster ported heads. There are max volumes you must adhere to.

Theyre gone, I got rid of em because they were useless for any stock project, and they werent a double spring conversion so not "safe" for street use on a monster, I also got rid of the 392 we had that was going to "originally" be the DP Motor (when they were supposed to be 6.4's) so anything not legal or usefull went bye bye instead of collecting more dust.

But Ill be running SS with Stocker legal heads, it would have been cool to throw on a set of very niceley CNC ported heads for the SS run.

Chris1529 03-22-2010 03:48 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
just depends on how "stock" your "stocker" is.

Jeff Teuton 03-22-2010 04:00 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
In SS/IA you are @ 3355 lbs, in SS/JA you are 3525 with the 5.7. The car is a natural SS/IA car so you can run H, I, or J. 3070 lbs for SS/GA. All weights include driver @ 170 lbs

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-22-2010 05:18 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1529 (Post 176673)
just depends on how "stock" your "stocker" is.

Bone Stock 2009 Challenger DP :) As stock as any. All Approved stuffs and Well its a stock Drag Pak,

Im "on the fence" about running it I or J, 3355 is about where its at with me in it and leaving the Accumulator in, as well as putting a few "Oem" I can make 35xx legally with weight and the replacment of some OE items that I found lighter conterparts for and were legal to replace, I just dont know if I feel like doing that work.

Im thinking ill take the parts along for the ride and depending entirley on how it runs out in testing Ill make a decision.

Jeff can you run KA ? No record there :)

Just Observing 03-22-2010 05:32 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
Just to clarify Jeff's numbers.(you got to rember that he is a car salesman!)

Challenger with 5.7 is 305 SS hp with a 3100 shipping weight.

Its power to weight factor is 10.16, which makes its natural class as SS/IA 10.00- 10.99

IA=10 x 305 hp + 170 driver= 3220 min weight 10.70 index.
cage, license, net, trans sheild,& 3.2/5a pants and jacket required

Can also run HA @ 3065 min weight(9.5x305+170) with 10.60 index

Can also run JA @ 3525 min weight(11x305+170) with 11.00 index.
No cage,license,net,.Trans sheild is required. Must have 3.2/1a pants and jacket


You can also run SS/GT.
GT/DA is(9.5x305+170) 3065 min wt with a 10.50 index
GT/EA is (10x305+170) 3220 min wt with a 10.65 index
GT/FA is (10.5 x305+170) 3370 min wt with a 10.80 index

All of these GT classes require cage,net,sheild,license and 3.2/5A pant and jacket

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-22-2010 08:54 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Observing (Post 176710)
Just to clarify Jeff's numbers.(you got to rember that he is a car salesman!)

Challenger with 5.7 is 305 SS hp with a 3100 shipping weight.

Its power to weight factor is 10.16, which makes its natural class as SS/IA 10.00- 10.99

IA=10 x 305 hp + 170 driver= 3220 min weight 10.70 index.
cage, license, net, trans sheild,& 3.2/5a pants and jacket required

Can also run HA @ 3065 min weight(9.5x305+170) with 10.60 index

Can also run JA @ 3525 min weight(11x305+170) with 11.00 index.
No cage,license,net,.Trans sheild is required. Must have 3.2/1a pants and jacket


You can also run SS/GT.
GT/DA is(9.5x305+170) 3065 min wt with a 10.50 index
GT/EA is (10x305+170) 3220 min wt with a 10.65 index
GT/FA is (10.5 x305+170) 3370 min wt with a 10.80 index

All of these GT classes require cage,net,sheild,license and 3.2/5A pant and jacket

Check, those were the same conclusions/numbers I came to , pretty close, its nice to see it all laid out, the GT Classes......what would be the Advantage of running that aside from SS ? The FA would be the only one I would see as feasiable because of index, I dont really see the car running under 10.5 for the time being.

The cage we had certed, good to 8.50, the Pants and Jacket (hood gloves and stuff) all 3.2/5a, Net (RJS), Shield (CSR) and liscence, Super Gas, and Stock.

I think it will all depend on the testing....well go from there.

Thanks, its nice to see it all wrung out by someone else and get confirmation its right :)

Just Observing 03-22-2010 09:46 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drooze (Post 176761)
Check, those were the same conclusions/numbers I came to , pretty close, its nice to see it all laid out, the GT Classes......what would be the Advantage of running that aside from SS ? The FA would be the only one I would see as feasiable because of index, I dont really see the car running under 10.5 for the time being.

Only advantage I can see for you running GT instead of SS is that GT/FA fits your car better in regards to min. wt. 3370 is alot easier to get to rather than ss/JA at 3525.

Also you might consider # of cars in class(es). Too many would make the chance of a heads up greatly increase. I would consider a stocker to be at a disadvantage in a heads up with most purpose built SS or GT cars.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-22-2010 11:03 PM

Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Observing (Post 176776)
Also you might consider # of cars in class(es). Too many would make the chance of a heads up greatly increase. I would consider a stocker to be at a disadvantage in a heads up with most purpose built SS or GT cars.

Good point and no doubt any SS Cars would probably eat my lunch, or GT Cars, best to avoid a heads up if possible.

Thanks, good advice


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