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Stewart Way 03-31-2010 06:36 PM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
Almost hesitate to enter into this for fear of being accused of b..ching but...Oh Well. Stock started allowing wheelie bars in 2002 I think. The wording has always been the same. Can not be attached to anything but the rear end housing. SS at the time had wheelie bars but it only stated that they could not be attached to the rear bumber of braces and it still reads that way today. But if you read the start of Super Stock it states that SS uses the same rules a Stock except where noted in the SS section. Nowhere in the SS section does it say that any part of the wheelie bar can be attached to anything so the rule from Stock applies to both Stock and Super Stock.
Just my read on the rules and as we know, opinions vary.

Larry Hill 03-31-2010 06:43 PM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
I would like to thank Ralph Popora for allowing me to look at some length at the AJE bars on his car. It was a lot of engineering in a very small space and nicely done.

Barry Polley 03-31-2010 07:37 PM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
This does not make any sense... What differance does it make if the bars pick up the diff and the upper body? Is it unsafe? No. Is it an advantage? No. Is it lighter? No. It is a differant approach for the same result. If anything it is a better approach to an outdated design. How about all the wheelie bars that are clearly too long for the car they are on. Very easy for a Camaro, Mustang and Mopar guy to see this...



Barry

Rory McNeil 03-31-2010 07:37 PM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Simpson (Post 178952)
What brought all this to light? I have seen these bars on Calverts cars for years? While I agree with the clairification. Did I miss something in the rule book about welded on sway bars? I have seen links and attachment points welded to the frame? I don't mean a coil spring car with a bolt on sway bar. I mean a leaf spring car with a sway bar control system on it? I don't know if that is legal or not? It has been several years since I have seen the photos of the cars in question.

Robert

Although John Calverts Mustang has been equipped with AJE wheelie bars for several years now, it has always been as a Super Stocker. I don`t believe that he ever had the bars on when it used to run in Stock.

Lew Silverman 03-31-2010 08:25 PM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
I may be missing something, but the way the bars are designed they act as a lever with the fulcrum in the middle, not at the axle. If you push up on the wheel end it pushes DOWN on the end attached to the axle. On a normal set of bars the fulcrum is at the wheel end, lifting the axle.

Lew

Jeff Lee 03-31-2010 10:19 PM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
I think I started running them on my D/S AMX in 2005. I never even thought it could be a problem. D7 tech never said a word (and I know, past acceptance is not presedence).

Bob Pagano 04-01-2010 09:30 AM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
Here is my fix for the problem.
Weld a bar across the chassis with two pads on it, weld a strut at the fulcrum point with a pad on it. Gap the pads 1/8 inch. The bars will need to be attached solid to the rear instead of bolted. They should still work at the fulcrum point.

Bill Kennedy 04-01-2010 10:53 AM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
If any one needs a set, I have a set that I would sell.

magnumv8 04-03-2010 11:15 AM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
I remember when the AJE bars were first brought to market and reading the tech information and seeing the photos of them installed and the theory of their operation.....while they are similar in appearance and do give you "wheelie" control they are considered a traction device and NHRA did not allow them to be used in stock....they have never been legal.....and if you read the general regs 3.6 you will see that they aren't legal in superstock either....they must be "fixed" at the attachment point and cannot pivot.....

pretty much black and white to me...no grey area there.....


D L Rambo.....

Ernie Neal 04-03-2010 12:42 PM

Re: AJE wheelie bars ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnumv8 (Post 179653)
I remember when the AJE bars were first brought to market and reading the tech information and seeing the photos of them installed and the theory of their operation.....while they are similar in appearance and do give you "wheelie" control they are considered a traction device and NHRA did not allow them to be used in stock....they have never been legal.....and if you read the general regs 3.6 you will see that they aren't legal in superstock either....they must be "fixed" at the attachment point and cannot pivot.....

pretty much black and white to me...no grey area there.....


D L Rambo.....

I beg to differ; they are devised for wheelie control only! If you don't have traction you don't even need them.

Ernie Neal
SS3400


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