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X-TECH MAN 10-04-2010 07:38 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 214610)
They are going to have a new heads up eliminator for the new cars (only) - with weight breaks depending on induction and cubic inch.

It will be a qualified 16 or 32 car field like Pro-Stock

The question is who do you think they are going to get rid of?

Have a very nice day


LOL
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:-) peace

This would be a good idea if they get rid of the alcohol cars at the points races in the process.

X-TECH MAN 10-04-2010 07:41 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 214619)
Not one place in that article was there any thing about getting input from stock and super stock racers to fix this problem. With the prior bad judgment of the tech department letting these cars run in stock and super stock with the bogus hp ratings they have why would anyone think they are going to fix the problem? What happens when Ford and Chrysler change the specs a little for the new model years and give them even more bogus hp numbers?

There are lots of stock and super stock racers that knew how bogus these cars were as soon as they saw the specs and compared them to the older cars. If we knew why didn't NHRA know? Also that BS about not hitting any combination with hp before it ran is total crap. The 403 Olds motor that Al Provost use to run was hit with 90 hp before it ever sat foot on the track. I think it went from 190 to 280. Also almost all the old cars with SAE net hp ratings were re-factored before they ran. Yep the LT1's and LS!'s were bogus as well, but you have to remember Pontiac and GMC were the official cars and trucks for NHRA. That didn't make it right and a lot of racers quit because of those cars.

These cars need to be in their own classes in Stock and need to be re-factored for SS. My God that Ford 352 that's in the guide at 285 for SS has 230cc intake runners with a 1000 cfm throttle body and 11 1/2 to 1 compression.

Same deal with Dave Boertmans 71 383 Mopar and Ron Gary's 455 Olds back in 1971. They were moved up one class higher than they were in before they hit the track for the first time and before they ever ran the 1971 Winternationals. Just who are they trying to fool?

Capri 10-04-2010 08:53 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
How about getting hit with 15HP before the car made pass 1 in Competition ANYWHERE??????????

Jess Suter 10-04-2010 10:58 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
The new CJ's and Dp's are NOT Stock eliminator cars. There is no need to institute a new class. Put them in Super Stock where they belong-period. Everyone seems to forget the EFI cars. Built a class all their own and what happened? Put them back in the eliminator again due to too many classes. The new CJ's and DP's are Super Stock not stock!

lstanford 10-04-2010 11:27 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jess Suter (Post 214681)
The new CJ's and Dp's are NOT Stock eliminator cars. There is no need to institute a new class. Put them in Super Stock where they belong-period. Everyone seems to forget the EFI cars. Built a class all their own and what happened? Put them back in the eliminator again due to too many classes. The new CJ's and DP's are Super Stock not stock!

Do da, Do da. Who remembers the music to this one, I seem to forget.

Wade_Owens 10-04-2010 11:31 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 214644)
Same deal with Dave Boertmans 71 383 Mopar and Ron Gary's 455 Olds back in 1971. They were moved up one class higher than they were in before they hit the track for the first time and before they ever ran the 1971 Winternationals. Just who are they trying to fool?

Also happened to Buddy Ingersoll at Indy years ago, he changed hoods/classes on his car, tech guy saw what had been changed from the last race, hit his "new" combo with hp before he had even teched!

Wade O

Charley Downing 10-05-2010 06:23 AM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
The only real problem NHRA has is listening to all you ***** Clowns from day to day cry about how it’s not fair. This is what is going to happen if you all don’t quit crying. NHRA is going to make STK for 1980 and newer fuel injection cars ONLY. I’am not blowing smoke up you’re ***** this is a real good possibility and one of many solutions on NHRA’s white board. NHRA is sick of hearing about how someone’s car is not as fast as everyone else and how it’s not fair. You people are killing yourself and don’t even know it
And as far as FX classes go get out of the 1960’s this will never happen and it’s a stupid idea.
This is my question to all of you. Is there any form of motorsports that allows old cars to still be competitive over new cars?

sohip 10-05-2010 06:35 AM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Mr Downing If you were still only affording to race your wagon and not using your daddies money to run the under -rated Mustang,you would be on our side and you damn well know it. Now you turn your back on its original roots because you drive a" New FI Car" Must be nice *** Clown! By the way you were a nicer guy before you became an advocate for the "I have more than you class" Good luck with your driving skills hahahahah.

Charley Downing 10-05-2010 07:34 AM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
I race with my own money and have for the past few years. I do have sponsors like other racers to help offset the cost of racing. And if someone wanted you to race for them you would to.
As far as my dad goes I work for him part time after I work my 6:00 to 4:30 full time job. And we all work very hard for what we have. So if he wants to build new cars with his sons I don’t see a problem. But don’t tell me I ‘am some rich kid just racing off daddies money. If you think that you don’t know Bob D very well.

The more I think about it your right my dad pays me for working for him so I guess in a way I do race off daddies money.

I'am still a nice guy I just have a different view

Real names no games

X-TECH MAN 10-05-2010 07:47 AM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
If NHRA only allowed 1980 and newer cars in stock then stock elim. would cease to exist and who would NHRA get all of their money from.......No wait.....STOCK ceased to exist in 1985 !


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