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Maybe you should have run for governor of your state? Not poking you but Bret knows the St Louis situation pretty intimately.

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I have read, as well as the taxes/finance issues, that there is a battle going on with the CEO and board members that don't want to be invested/participate in the motorsports industry. That would be a hard battle for a track manager to overcome.

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If someone else picks up the pieces and makes it a success - what does that say?

They will have overcame the problems that the past management team could not.

Attitude, ingenuity and resourcefulness may not win out in a "life or death" struggle but it does in most other situations.


BTW -
The brave firefighters, who lost their lives on 9/11, had a positive attitude or they would not have been there. They died trying. Let’s not make this a thread about 911

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So is it like the Chicago Tribune situation? The Chicago Tribune did not go into bankruptcy because folks stopped reading the newspaper, it was a tax situation with the family that owned the LA Times (which the Tribune bought with a special agreement of some sort) when they wanted out. I wonder if any of their horse properties are "subsidized" by casino type gambling.

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LMAO! I don't even know who "Andy's dad" is so it's pretty stupid to take my reply as a personal affront.

If it makes you feel any better, I'll revise the original statement.

You, (or anyone else), would've failed in the most miserable possible way.

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I did not take it personally at all

Some peolpe take this website way to seriously

Believe it or not we are not saving lives and we are not finding a cure for a pandemic disease

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Bret, not too many years ago there were 3 tracks, gateway-peavly-wentzville, now none. What do you think happened?

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Ummm....they all closed? LOL!

There have been ten tracks within forty miles of the Gateway Arch and all have closed. It's the circle of life.

I have to agree with Andy's dad; it's just the closing of a dragstrip. I had a close friend say to me, (about Gateway), "Wow! That's gotta be like watching your house get demolished!". I replied, "Nah. I've actually watched my house get demolished. This is just a dragstrip closing".

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Ok, besides the ones I already named I think there was one at St Genevieve, Alton, you may be counting White Hall but I think it is farther away than that, that is all I can come up with.

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Bret,
Back about 10 years ago you and Tom were on a mission to locate/cataloge all known closed tracks in the country. How did that turn out? Care to add Memphis and Gateway to your works? :~)
I agree with Andys Dad that you could manage and run a facility and show up some of these Corp. know it all's. As a former track owner/operator I have the ego and drive that says: it can be done!!
But sometimes businesses (race tracks included) are built and the finances set up with the intention of closing at some time down the road. Just one case I know about: Go back in the 70's and look at the corp that built Dallas International. I have some worthless paper that was stock in that venture. HA! Anybody want to give me face value on it?