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Ed Wright 12-08-2010 11:38 AM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
Adger, you have too many toys. :D

jmantle 12-08-2010 09:20 PM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
Jim,

We are not going to use all qualifying runs, which is why it reads “final qualifying runs and all elimination runs.” It’s no different than this year, or years past. With that said you are correct, what ever the is listed on the final qualifying sheet will be used in the review process.

Pat Cvengros

Technical Services Representative

In regards to Toby's question
Jim Mantle
div 6 S/SS

Ed Wright 12-08-2010 09:34 PM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
So, you hit the review trigger four times in qualifyimg, and only one of them counts?

Toby Lang 12-08-2010 09:42 PM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
Thanks a lot, Jim. I was told last season that one person could get flagged twice during qualifying at the same race. Maybe I misunderstood or got the wrong info, but when I asked this same question in the other AHFS thread that Mike Crutchfield started he said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Crutchfield (Post 223062)
And yes ALL runs count including all class runs and all LODRS runs. The wording can be a little confusing to me also.


I'm glad it's all cleared up now.


-Toby

Bernie Cunningham 12-08-2010 10:48 PM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
So, what if ?????

On one given weekend, at two different race tracks anywhere in the country, the same combo car (i.e. DP with same motor), which is two different cars with different drivers, go faster than 1.20 under to trigger an auto HP hit, does it get hit TWICE ??????

countrypuppy4865 12-08-2010 10:59 PM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
Bernie,
Good Point if this would have been in effect DP 5.7 would have been rated at about 390 by the time it left Indy!

Mike Carr 12-08-2010 11:12 PM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 226802)
So, what if ?????

On one given weekend, at two different race tracks anywhere in the country, the same combo car (i.e. DP with same motor), which is two different cars with different drivers, go faster than 1.20 under to trigger an auto HP hit, does it get hit TWICE ??????

Bernie, I believe the answer is "no". Last year, I believe Roy Johnson and someone in Division 4 (maybe Dempsey Pendarvis) both ran fast enough for automatic HP. I asked, and was told no, it only gets hit once. I would guess now, with the tiered HP hits, the fastest of the two runs would be used to hit the combination (i.e., if one car is -1.20 and another -1.40, the -1.40 penalty would be applied). I could be wrong.

Bernie Cunningham 12-09-2010 12:57 AM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
Mike, that's my exact problem with the current 'setup'. I know it happened last year and I have a hard time believing that it doesn't affect the AHFS twice !!!

Mike Carr 12-09-2010 01:15 AM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
True. I don't what, if any, amendments will be made for 2011.

Using my scenario of -1.20 and -1.40, last year, it would have received one hit, the standard 3.25% hit for ANY run, regardless of how quick. This year, -1.40 will receive a 7.25% hit. So in that sense, it would be better this year. IF they use a 'quickest run/most severe penalty' rule. Time will tell, I guess.

Urraco 12-09-2010 06:17 AM

Re: New AHFS 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Moock (Post 226471)
New AHFS posted on NHRA site. Tom

http://www.nhra.com/competition/automatichp.aspx

Are they going to use the factored index, or the sea level index at the altitude factored tracks?


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