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Adam Strang 01-18-2011 10:38 AM

Re: Roller rockers
 
No mainstream combo and no rocker troubles here.Leave it alone.

Dan Lattimore 01-18-2011 10:39 AM

Re: Roller rockers
 
Stump pullers don't need high rpm. Tray lifters $28.00 Sealed Power selected rockers with three piece steel pivots $68.00 CP Products valve springs $48.00 ----150 seat 350 open. Perfect machine and assembly.

mannymen 01-18-2011 09:43 PM

Re: Roller rockers
 
What is considered extreme valve spring pressure in a stocker?

Myron Piatek 01-18-2011 11:32 PM

Re: Roller rockers
 
Some of the composite lifter engines have moderate roller-type pressures. They even recommend starting at 170-180 closed on the seat.

X-TECH MAN 01-19-2011 08:40 AM

Re: Roller rockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mannymen (Post 234031)
What is considered extreme valve spring pressure in a stocker?

Any pressure that requires a "Shubeck" style modified lifter that cost more than roller lifters thats used in S/S ! Like Danny (Hi Dan) said in the post below......150 lbs seat pressures 350 open MAX should be all you need. Saves wear and tear, less breakage from lower RPM's like a stock engine was designed for. Then you could run the OEM stuff until rebuild time. Some of these "Stockers" are being turned up to "Never Never land" on the shift points and in the traps. No wonder the racing associations had to allow aftermarket rods (more expense). Stock was never meant to be S/S. Max valve spring pressures in this range would be one rule change I would vote for instead of allowing S/S type replacement parts every time someone breaks an engine because of turning a stocker to 8200 + RPM with a stock capacity oil pan. This is also one reason some have used "Cheater" heads and intake manifolds over the years to allow for more air flow. Its the Associations fault for letting the rules get out of hand.....not the racers. They just use what the associations allow but it cost EVERYONE more and more to stay competitive. My 2 1/2 cents and Im sticking to it !

Chad Rhodes 01-19-2011 12:25 PM

Re: Roller rockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek (Post 234049)
Some of the composite lifter engines have moderate roller-type pressures. They even recommend starting at 170-180 closed on the seat.

add a hundred

Dan Lattimore 01-19-2011 01:43 PM

Re: Roller rockers
 
Hi Terry------You're dead on. Worst rule change ever. Started all this BS.

X-TECH MAN 01-19-2011 04:00 PM

Re: Roller rockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Lattimore (Post 234121)
Hi Terry------You're dead on. Worst rule change ever. Started all this BS.

Hi bud......Its good to hear from you. Its a nice 77 degrees here in sunny Fla. today....lol. I see your listed as being in Florida ? Question is....how can the stock racers every get this stuff changed back to some sort of sanity?

Dan Lattimore 01-19-2011 10:23 PM

Re: Roller rockers
 
Hi Terry---I'm still working in Va. with a connection to Jensen Beach for the past 15 years. Wish I was down there with you full time but still have family obligations. I'm afraid class racing will never get back to what we grew up with and love. Too much work for the new sanctioning bodies run by bean counters and not people like you and Farmer. Majority of the class racers are eligable for Social Security and still racing the cars they bought new. As Macarthur said, like the old soldier, "They'l just fade away". As for me I'm putting my ( bought new ) Black 66W30 2dr post together for D/S . So find yourself something to race ( 4 speed of course ) and Craig and I will come to an association race down ther and try to wear your ***** out. Then fry up some burgers and dogs and drink alot of beer. :)

X-TECH MAN 01-19-2011 10:43 PM

Re: Roller rockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Lattimore (Post 234273)
Hi Terry---I'm still working in Va. with a connection to Jensen Beach for the past 15 years. Wish I was down there with you full time but still have family obligations. I'm afraid class racing will never get back to what we grew up with and love. Too much work for the new sanctioning bodies run by bean counters and not people like you and Farmer. Majority of the class racers are eligable for Social Security and still racing the cars they bought new. As Macarthur said, like the old soldier, "They'l just fade away". As for me I'm putting my ( bought new ) Black 66W30 2dr post together for D/S . So find yourself something to race ( 4 speed of course ) and Craig and I will come to an association race down ther and try to wear your ***** out. Then fry up some burgers and dogs and drink alot of beer. :)

LOL....sounds good ole friend. Ive been looking and there is one or two Im seriously considering. One is an A/ stick car. I still have my health and got a good buck for my old place in Md. I can afford it now with the left over money after moving here but my garage is much smaller than what I had before and Im having a hard time parting with the $$$$$$.....LOL. The money is to hard to come by being retired (or is that retarded?) Its much more expensive these days as you well know. There are not many that I would love to be out run by other than the "Old Guard". Your ride sounds "SWEET". Take care and drink one for me. See you at the races.
Terry


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