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RPM5595 01-28-2011 11:29 PM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
When I ran my car in Stock I used an airbag and crusher springs out of a 1976 Cougar. Keep in mind though I had a LOT of weight in the back to make 3300lbs. in N/SA.

Jeff, the problem with not cutting the springs is the front end of the car sits nosed up, a lot. I cut mine to get the ride height I wanted and never had any troubles. It had great 60' times (low 1.50's) and did big wheelies for a "N" car. C4 with a 2.92 low. 4.86 gear with Hoosier "short" radials.

Jeff Lee 01-28-2011 11:56 PM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RPM5595 (Post 236449)
When I ran my car in Stock I used an airbag and crusher springs out of a 1976 Cougar. Keep in mind though I had a LOT of weight in the back to make 3300lbs. in N/SA.

Jeff, the problem with not cutting the springs is the front end of the car sits nosed up, a lot. I cut mine to get the ride height I wanted and never had any troubles. It had great 60' times (low 1.50's) and did big wheelies for a "N" car. C4 with a 2.92 low. 4.86 gear with Hoosier "short" radials.

I understand on the springs but if you want it right, you have to find a smaller wire diameter or maybe have some custom made (which is what I did; try finding AMC parts!). It is worth it.

Dinsdale 01-29-2011 02:45 AM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
The only thing "trick" about Morso trick springs is getting them in the car. If you have to cut them then the spring isn't what it was designed to be. 1 coil won't change the rate much but as Jeff said you're better off with the right spring the first time. If Moroso makes a spring that bolts in and ride height is correct then you're fine. If not, it's a bunch of work to end up with a compromise.

mopar jeff 01-29-2011 02:25 PM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
Exactly why I didn't want to mess with it. I figured the rate would go up significantly, and the trial and error cutting can be a pain. Although I have done other things on the car many times, springs weren't my idea of fun. To each his own though.

Low 1.50 60' times is pretty impressive, even in N. I just touched the 1.50s last time out at a P weight. I thought that was pretty good. Oh well, time to keep tweaking the combo.

greg fulk 01-31-2011 12:30 AM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
Jeff 1.50 in P/SA is pretty good... I run in the low 1.60's I went 1.58 @ O/SA weight.

Jeff Lee 01-31-2011 12:40 AM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mopar jeff (Post 236569)
Exactly why I didn't want to mess with it. I figured the rate would go up significantly, and the trial and error cutting can be a pain. Although I have done other things on the car many times, springs weren't my idea of fun. To each his own though.

Low 1.50 60' times is pretty impressive, even in N. I just touched the 1.50s last time out at a P weight. I thought that was pretty good. Oh well, time to keep tweaking the combo.

I've put at least 5 sets of front springs on my car. One custom set was incorrectly made. Instead of using the front half weight, they (mistakenly) used the total weight of the car as the front weight. So I guess I had springs rated at 3200#'s on the front! Or at least I tried. You shoulod have seen me TRYING to compress those springs! When it couldn't be done, I finally said "something is wrong here"! And Moroso doesn't offer a spring and factory springs didn't do what I wanted. Therefore I went custom. And that took a few tries. I used Coil Spring Specialties in Kansas City (MO or KS?). They cost $150 a pair at the time (this was probably 1997 or so) and the springs have NEVER dropped at all. Moroso springs seem to be good for a couple years at best on some cars.
And removing a coil CAN be significant in terms of percentage of spring rate. You'll have to do the math.

Chris1529 01-31-2011 07:22 AM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
I have Eibach's in my car all the way around. no issue with fit or ride height.

mopar jeff 01-31-2011 03:23 PM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
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Originally Posted by greg fulk (Post 236882)
Jeff 1.50 in P/SA is pretty good... I run in the low 1.60's I went 1.58 @ O/SA weight.

Yeah I wonder what kind of ET we could shave by knocking .05 or more off the 60' time.

Chris1529 01-31-2011 07:49 PM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
a tenth

mopar jeff 02-01-2011 05:58 PM

Re: 94-95 Mustang stocker
 
I would love to have that. :)


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